Ripple question

vicmilt wrote on 7/14/2007, 11:06 AM
I'm a pretty experienced editor both on Vegas and others, so here's an interesting question.

Picture a timeline with ten clips.

I'd like to move clip eight forward to right after clip four (making it the new clip five). I'd also like to ripple the edits after the insertion AUTOMATICALLY.

In my old AVID it was simply a grab and drag operation. Everything would adjust itself.
In Vegas, I've been :
Dragging open a "hole" right after position four and then rippling the entire timeline (SHIFT+CTRL+F)
Then I drag clip eight into position.
Then I close up the hole after clip eight (now the new clip five) and I ripple everything again.
Then I close the hold left behind at old position eight and ripple once more.

I've done this so often, that it's quite fast, but now I've got TONS of repositioning of clips to do, and the old AVID drag and drop is looking pretty good to me.

Have I missed something in Vegas?

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Comments

wufred wrote on 7/14/2007, 12:36 PM
Vic,
I am not experienced enough at this. What I have done if I have all my clips on the same pair of tracks is to first take clip 8 to a new pair of tracks. Go to clip 4 and "select to end" , push the combo down far enough to leave room for clip 8. Pull clip 8 up into the hole and back fill the other clips.
This is my brute force method to do it. I would certainly want to learn how others may do it smarter, as I have learned so many new tricks from this forum.
My problem with my way is that when I have many pairs of tracks in a half edited project. I have to go look for ones that are outside of my timeline window to select them so that they move down "synchronizely". Sometimes I miss and don't find it till much later and a lot of headache.
R/Fred
blink3times wrote on 7/14/2007, 4:02 PM
"What I have done if I have all my clips on the same pair of tracks is to first take clip 8 to a new pair of tracks. Go to clip 4 and "select to end"
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I do it much the same way as you. But I must say that I use Avid Liquid as well and the ripple edit system is indeed better in Liquid. Sony does need to improve ripple editing a wee bit.
kairosmatt wrote on 7/14/2007, 4:09 PM
Why not just cut and past with auto ripple on?
When you cut the clip eight, nine and ten will fall back into place with the old clip seven. Then past it between four and five, and everything will be in place.
vicmilt wrote on 7/14/2007, 4:28 PM
Ta Dummm - you win the prize.

I got in the habit of turning off my auto-ripple button a few years ago since it would ripple tracks without my wanting to when I would forget to deactivate it. Instead I use a key combination of CTRL+SHIFT+F - which I obviously never have to turn off.

But for the wholesale rearranging of clips that I am doing, a reactivation of the Ripple button is totally in keeping, utilizing simple cuts and pastes.

Thanks!

v
JJKizak wrote on 7/14/2007, 4:31 PM
I have been doing that lately since "long" drags aren't exactly easy and sometimes get screwed up. Also make sure you don't have something else highlighted when copy & pasting as things get real jumbled. I always click the lower unused space to clear everything first before I click the proper clip. The damage you can do in a few microseconds is amazing. I have often done a lot of those "Cole Younger Wonderments" after copy & pasting and was sure glad for undo's.

JJK
PeterWright wrote on 7/14/2007, 6:35 PM
You can also pick up Clip 8 with RIGHT mouse button. drag and drop over Clip 5 and from the drop down select Shuffle Events.
blink3times wrote on 7/14/2007, 6:39 PM
"Why not just cut and past with auto ripple on?"
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Oh Gawd.... I feel so stupid! That's such a simple answer!
vicmilt wrote on 7/14/2007, 7:03 PM
Glad to know I'm not alone here - thanks guys - just saved me ginormous amounts of time.

[note reference to latest word addition to Websters Dictionary]

EDIT: ... and that Right Click trick is fantabulous.
[note 1968 word ref]

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Andrew B wrote on 7/14/2007, 11:38 PM
"Why not just cut and past with auto ripple on?"
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WOW, OF COURSE!!!

I, too, keep that ripple button turned off as it causes me much pain while editing (I forget it is on). I'm definitely going to try these suggestions and see if I can improve my workflow.
Nice right-click option too!

OT: Victor, I totally love 'light it right' and have built lots of nano-lights. Thanks for a GREAT educational DVD!
JJKizak wrote on 7/15/2007, 5:38 AM
That right click thing sounds really kool. I have to give that a shot.
JJK
vicmilt wrote on 7/15/2007, 7:25 AM
Andrew -

Thanks for kind words about Light It Right - but - and forgive me here, the new video I did, Director/Cameraman, is my best.

I put my heart into it and added everything I could remember and gather together about directing and shooting.

Now obviously you can't distill 40 plus years into two hours - but I guarantee there's something there for everyone. And I'm getting those nice letters again.

I'm having fun making these videos and am thinking about the next one. What would you guys like to see covered?

v
kairosmatt wrote on 7/15/2007, 3:26 PM
I like the shuffle command too, but sometimes I get funny results. I can't remember what they are off the top of my head (editing computer is currently down right now), but I'll see if I can figure it out when I try it again.
There is also a short cut for turning auto ripple on and off, ctrl-L I believe.
Also, just for the record, I think this is the first time I've actually been able to help somebody on the forums-though I've received tons of help!