rm. Hyper text..Streaming..WHAT?!

vmcdee wrote on 5/15/2004, 5:47 PM
Ok, Vegas users. Here is the problem. I build web sites along with all of the editing. I have a few clients I have done small videos for their websites. The problem is, they do not have dedicated streaming servers. At I-power I have the option of creating a real media file, then attaching it to a meatfile..blah blah blah..Can anybody put this into terms I can understand.
I am still a WYSIWYG kind of guy.

My code is limited, so some "stupid" instructuions are need here.
One last note. Do I render as an .rm file for this as well...

Lost in the sauce...

Vmcdee

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Chienworks wrote on 5/15/2004, 7:04 PM
I don't bother with official streaming. It's a whole lot more effort and expense for very little gain. I use "helper" files to speed viewer launch time and let the file play as it downloads. For most situations this is good enough.

Render the file to RealMedia using .rm as the extension. Place this file in a web directory on any ol' web server. Create a text file with the same name as the media file (not necessary for it to be the same name, but it helps you remember which file it goes with), except with .ram as the extension. In this file type in the fully qualified URL of the .rm file (must start with http:// ... etc. and end in .rm). You can create this file in notepad or any text editor. Save this on the web server as well. From the web page, link to the .ram file.

What happens now is that when someone clicks on the link, they get the .ram file which is extremely tiny, probably under 100 bytes. The browser detects that it's RealMedia from the .ram extention, launches RealPlayer, and then tells RealPlayer to load the file from the URL containd in the .ram file. This means that RealPlayer launches as soon as possible rather than waiting for the large media file to finish downloading first and can start playing it as soon as it has buffered enough of the file.

For example: say that your media file is mymovie.rm and your website is http://www.mysite.com/. You would create a text file named mymovie.ram and it would contain http://www.mysite.com/mymovie.rm . The link would be something like this:

<a href=mymovie.ram>Watch my movie</a>

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Slightly unrelated note: RealMedia has a pretty bad rep and lots of folks will refuse to install the player. You may want to consider using Windows Media instead. Save the movie as a .wmv file and create a .wvx helper file in the same way as the .ram file is explained above. Better yet, offer both, and possibly a QuickTime .mov version as well.
vmcdee wrote on 5/15/2004, 7:39 PM
I have been schooled!

Dude, what's the address? Check is in the mail!

Thanks!
Vmcdee
clearvu wrote on 5/15/2004, 7:58 PM
Is there a way of doing this WITHOUT using RealMedia? For example, some other similar program?

Brian
clearvu wrote on 5/16/2004, 2:37 PM
bump
TorS wrote on 5/16/2004, 3:08 PM
Instead of bumping you could just read Chienworks' post above.
Tor
vmcdee wrote on 5/17/2004, 10:17 AM
Yeah Chienworks really laid it out.
I am going to give it a shot today.

See if I can follow directions and all that jazz..


Vmcdee
Guy S. wrote on 5/17/2004, 2:09 PM
Just concluded testing of Clipstream media on our site (www.seektech.com/test). For our application, Clipstream has some advantages over RM and WM and we will offer it in addition to those. Pros and cons below.

Pros:

No external player needed - plays on any browser that supports Java;

Player automatically determines connection speed and plays the highest quality video the connection will support;

Streams from standard web servers - streaming media server NOT required;

Looks much better than RM and WM at low bandwidth, and begins playback much sooner (~10 - 15 seconds);

Supports video e-mail;

Supports tracking, reporting, and extensive customization (custom buttons, poster frame before playback, embedded event triggers, etc.)

Cons:
Must license each video you stream (expensive, but less than a years' worth of streaming media hosting);

Low frame-rate compared to RM and WM;

Audio quality not as good as RM or WM at low to medium bw.

GS
beatnik wrote on 5/17/2004, 5:37 PM
Re: Clipstream, you have to purchase 1000 video units and the cost is
around $15.00 (US) oer video. I would say that is pretty expensive. AND the
quality is NOT as good as the "good old WMP" in high broadband. I have researched all the media sites, emailed many people and the answer is
still Windows Media Player for quality, expense etc. I pay $16.00 per month
for a web server. www.canaca.com

My web site is www.VideoListings.ca if you want to check out my
videos of homes for sale.

I even purchased Wildform's FLIX PRO which converts avi files to
swf video files....NOT as good as WMP for quality! One day there will
be ONE player, ONE OS, ONE browser and ONE type of hardware
and EVERYBODY will be on high speed!

If anybody comes up with the best solution please post here! What I mentioned above is just my opinion.

Regards,

Alex Morias