Someone recommended Roxio for video editing? Good grief. However, one of the sad side effects of my recent problems running Vegas on Windows 7 was I tried a whole lot of other programs, including Magix Video Studio Pro 16. Vegas like editing interface. Storyboard layout option. 99 tracks. Uses the graphics card so you get full resolution real time playback on a second monitor. Secondary color correction. Built in stabilizer. Animated travel thingy. Lots of effects, mostly keyframeable. Pretty audio rack stuff including ambient synth. Lots of optional useless crapware. But. Handled everything I could put on the timeline in any combination -3:4, 16:9, AVCHD, Mjpeg, jpeg etc. etc. Introductory price came to $50. I think Sony Vegas, much as I have loved it, is in really big trouble.

Hello Reygato:

I used Roxio 10.0 for about 5 months before switching to Vegas. For me, Roxio was very unstable. Always crashing. I am working in a setting where I must crank out a 30 minute video each week of people on their scuba diving vacation, and the many crashes were unacceptable. The final straw came when Roxio crashed and would not load so I had to finish my weekly video using Windows Movie Maker. That was painful ! ! !

I researched Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Pro and switched to it about a year ago. I have also heard good things about Canopus Editus, but SVMS was easier for me to demo and buy in my area.

SVMS is very stable and feature rich compared to Roxio. For example, the Roxio version I was using did not have keyframes or color correction options. I do a little bit of color correction on my underwater stuff.

After using SVMS Platiunum Pro, I would never go back to Roxio. I hope you have good luck with whatever your choose!

Kim

no, I did not know that about the difference in the hardware or the software. We have had nothing but Problems with Sony Vegas since getting it. In a pinch, where I absolutely had to have a DVD to send out, I ended up going back to "Simple Movie Maker" and using it to t do the titles, frame splits, sound, music background etc simply because I could not get Sony to do those things.
I have been on these forums in the past and expressed my frustration with the program, and I don't want to drag everyone into this. Now, if others are using Sony Vegas and it is working, that is great, but it is not working here. Either I am doing something wrong or something is wrong with the program, either way, After a year and a half we should have some results to show for this and we don't. And after a year and a half, I would think that this had been figured out.
Now I am needing a new computer, we still have problems with this one, and It looks like it has become one of those replaceable, Obsolete things.
Since I am going to buy a new computer, maybe I need to go ahead and buy an editing program as well ? This time, one that actually does the things it claims.
Someone suggested Roxio, I wondered if anyone has used it . Has anyone used anything that actually works ? Thanks

You know ... that new computer could very well run Vegas like a champ. Don't assume that the problems with Vegas on the old computer will stay with the new computer.

Well, tech support along the way suggested we run this on the other computer (XP SP2) no luck there either.
According to one site, Corel and Adobe are the best as far as ease of use and also have more editing elements than Vegas. IF Vegas were to do all the things it is SUPPOSED to do then it WOULD be a great program, but what good are all those editing functions if the only way to see them is to save the file, gather everyone around open the editing box and show it there?
Kind of defeats the purpose for spending all the $$ to make a DVD when all we can do is watch random clips on the editing screen, as that is as far as they go on Sony Vegas. (Now someone is going to say "Well you have to save it and burn it onto a dvd disc" Trust me We have tried that over and over and it does - not- work !!!!)
I'll make sure that if I do have to get WIndows 7 then I will get something new that works with Windows 7.

As it is now, I take simple movie maker and use it to string all the clips together, add the titles, and some music in the background. It would be nice if the editing effects on Sony Vegas actually did something, and the next program needs to work for a change.

'After a year and a half we should have some results to show for this and we don't.'
Damn, you are sure persistant. I give a piece of software a week and a half to work or unistall it! I would do what brighterside said and try it on your new computer and see if you have any better luck. If not, dump it and move on. I don't believe you have ever been happy with the program (which is OK), so move on to something you like. Download some trial versions and give them a try. 'Has anyone used anything that actually works ?'
Sure, it's called 'Vegas'. It works perfecty for thousands of us, but not everyone, as is the case for all programs. I also use several high end programs, and guess what........not everyone is able to use them, or happy when they do. If you find a good alternative to Vegas, please share with us. Good luck. Cin

Posted by: reygato, Date: 4/7/2010 5:54:04 PM
Well, recently my computer bit the dust, and even after costly repairs it is not running at optimum function.It looks like I am going to be getting a new computer.


I agree, w/ Brigherside, since you already have VMSP, before you purchase Roxio maybe you should try loading VMSP on your new machine. You may find that you just need more horsepower.

Being that you haven't posted your system specs there's no way to assist. I've used VMSP on an old P4HT machine for years and just upgraded to an i7. I didn't use the P4 for web surfing, only video and audio. Ethernet port is disabled and disconnected from the network. Still running like a champ.

If you want to move over to another video app, Corel Video Studio X3, has 7 video tracks and 4 audio tracks lots of fluf. I prefer to work in Vegas but for certain things that Vegas doesn't do to well right now I use X3. Whether you use Movie Maker, Roxio or what ever, the bottom line is use what gets the job done. (;

Obviously there are a lot of editing programs and each does somethings well and others maybe not at all - I am long term user of Adobe Elements and Roxio before trying Vegas. I came to try Vegas Movie as Adobe PRE 7 did not want to handle (even burn) AVCHD. I am doing my first AVCHD edit in Vegas -hope I got it right -sometimes it is just best to stay with one brand if you are going to push things alittle =Sony camcorde r /sofrware / BD player = prevents a lot of finger pointing. Roxio Video editing is not (yet) in the same league as Vegas Movie or Adobe but is great for quicky jobs like cutting commercials out of a recorded TV show -no big set drill -just open- chop out and save/burn -it is very good at where it started and that is music CD's including lables... I am finding more problems with win 7 - 64 bit dealing with hard and software than any thing else - took 3 tries to add a BD reader to my PC and Sony even said ":not on 64 bit PC !!
A question - if any one has been sucessful at burning an AVCHD on a standard DVD disc - How long a video can you fit (eg rulle of thumb is 60 mins SD on a DVD) without loosing quality. I have not gotten that far yet Thanks, K

re: AVCHD on DVD.

Throwing in my tuppence-worth on this debate: I have played around with several video editing programs. The main two factors that are deciding ones for me are 1) Cost 2) Functionality 3) Ease of use. Okay, that's three factors!!!

It is in these areas that I have found Song Vegas Movie Studio Plat-Pro 9 basically unbeatable. For an extremely reasonable price SVMSPP9 offers so much functionality that, in my humble opinion, nothing comes close. Just the interface alone in SVMSPP9 inspires the user and makes you feel like you have a serious tool - Roxio, Corel, Magix etc all look very basic in comparison. True, for basic video editing they might suffice - but the versatility of Vegas, when put against price especially, is awesome.

True - there are some extra things I would like to have in Vegas, but overall it's got to be the best currently available. I used to use Premiere and never thought I would stray from that - but as versions of Premiere became too expensive for my budget, I was forced to find an alternative. Along came SVMSPP9 for less that £60 and. frankly, I am WELL impressed and happy...

...well, happy most of the time!! I am not saying it's perfect but I will forgive it's minor irritations. It's a damn good video editor for even quite complex editing projects.

Viddy

Viddy, I know this is a Vegas forum and like you I though Vegas PP was pretty much the ultimate in affordable editing, but I seriously have to doubt that you have tried the latest version of Magix - It's nothing like Pinnacle, Corel, Elements, Cyberlink etc. Magix has a Vegas - like interface, e.g. same crossfade and fadeout, but it also has 99 tracks, multicam support, secondary color correction, hardware accelerated full screen hi def real time playback including for AVCHD, storyboard mode and better audio features than Vegas - true, it can come with a lot of consumerist crapware, but this is optional and you really do have a serious tool. For me its been fast, rock solid and clean. Basically it makes the current Vegas MS look very basic in comparison and has set a very high bar for what we should expect from the next version of Vegas.

it makes the current Vegas MS look very basic in comparison and has set a very high bar for what we should expect from the next version of Vegas.

It's been almost 2-years since v9 came out so you have to wonder what's going on at SCS and if the competition will affect what they include in v10. SCS has put a lot of effort into getting Vegas Pro 9d out ahead of CES, so have they had any time to develop VMS?