I need some input from you users for this Adobe Plug-in manager...

Which type of Adobe Plug-ins do you use mostly?

1) video filters, non-keyframmable (like those in Premiere 6.0 and before)
2) video transitions, non-keyframmable
3) video filters, keyframmable (like in AfterEffects)

- Satish

DEFINITELY Keyframable, please. Older ones ADAPTED to keyfamablity would also be nice.

I generally use key frammable filters--Satish---if you can pull this one off you will go down as a folk hero in the annals of Vegas history.

Satish, if it is possible:

Camcorders have automatic adjustments to compensate for changes in light in each event. They change the iris and/or shutter speed.

Unfortunately, they are not always doing what would be desired. They lag, and they sometimes pick the wrong thing to compensate for.

Is there a way to put together a filter that will look at a clip and note the exposure HIGH and LOW, and then, allow the user to pick a "Correct" point, and then move those high and low points toward the "Correct" setting. Sort of like a Video Compressor. I have seen compressors, but none quite like this that I know of. It should NOT try to compress the area marked as correct, for instance.

It would have to involve ALL the attributes that Levels has, but on a completely automated basis.

It should also be keyframable to allow local over-rides when necessary.

Keyframable filters straight from After Effects would rock!

Psunami, Shine, Zaxwerks, too many to name...

Gary

Satish, you are a true legend just for attempting this undertaking! All Vegas users will benefit bigtime from this if it happens, and Sofo should be writing you a rather large cheque to say the least. I am currently finishing off a music video done entirely in Vegas3 (ie no AE...tho it is tempting), and your shatter plugin combined with the builtin light ray effects is just making it too ez ;)

For my two cents, aex (After Effects) plugins would be the ones to go for as it would negate the need for AE pretty much, unless you really need those tacky 3d effects(stick to a 3d app I say.....can u say Hash Animation Master for $300). It would also save jumping between apps, when needing say just a bit of moblur (re:vision reelsmart moblur) or film fx (Big fx film fx are grouse), as it sucks to have to re-render and potentially lose quality. Even a crappy app such as Movie DV or Mainvision(quite nice, but shocking gui) does support AE filters, so I am guessing that it is possible. Keyframeablity is a must of course.

On a similar note, if you could work out a way to use Photoshop compatable plugins with or without keyframe ablity, I would be more impressed,as we all have dozens of free and commercial Photoshop plugins, and personally I find that I can get more interesting fx in AE by using a bunch of obscure ps plugs in AE or Aura DV than one of those ridiculously expensive AE effects packs....

Anyway, most Vegas users would be happy with ANY sort of plugin convertor...

Thanks for your time....

Zendorf is quite right. GOOOO! Satish!
Say, do you think they will be ready for the weekend? <g>

ALL filters and transitions are wellcome, keyframable, and multitrackable, and autoupdatable, and polimorphable, and ALLable.... ;-)

Thanks Satish.

Josaver.

Zendorf:
RE: HASH, Aura, AISTMovieDV! I have those apps as well. All three have GUIs for the more experienced user. But I bought them knowing that someday "the light would go on" and I could use their great capbilities.

Interested in what you use each of these apps for in creating your videos.
Steve

Howdy snicholshms,

You have asked me a very general question that is hard to put into a few paragraphs! If you want any specifics feel free to email me at tangram@tpg.com.au
Regarding those 3 apps, throw out MovieDV straight away! Next.....Hash is a very nice 3d app, but very quirky! Hey I like quirky and it works for me, add to that the fact that it is the only one I can afford (tho the new Cinema 4d xl r8 is next on the list...after the Vegas and DVD architect upgrades ;) . It is a very pro app that for some reason gets marketed to beginners, which is strange as its strength is character animation .....which is why it appeals to traditional animators. It doesn't have the flash of other apps, but has much more substance and a very clean workflow(when it doesn't crash). The new v10 is looking very promising, when it looks safe to use...but I still use version 8.5+ as it is as stable as it gets.

Aura DV(actually Aura v1) is something that I got free on a Digit coverdisc, and it is very sweet for any rotoscoping(ie painting over video) work or full drawn/painted animations. The interface is very ez to use, so I don't know why you are stuck on the interface. Basically you import your DV via Vegas (of course) and then import the DV in Aura and can paint over individual or multiple frames. I find it handy for roughing up a bit of footage with flecks of paint or tracing over objects to get a painted look. It is also great for adding PS filters over your dv footage, and actually accepts more PS filters than AE does...although in AE you can stack your filters.....would much rather do it in Vegas though...crossing my fingers that Satish can channel this plugin into existence ;)

Satish, how 'bout helping me get 2 Twix bars from the vending machine for the price of one?

SATISH, you are undisputed code master, and Zendorf your competent usability advisor.
DGates, you're just a thread terrorist ... sorry 'bout that :-))

I shiver in anticipation, thinking about all those 8bf plug-in's waiting to be keyframed into Vegas ... boy, it's just a speck short of rotoscoping !!! Jasc Virtual Painter anyone ?

Let's go grab the biggies by the throat (AFX, Boris, Adorage, Hollywood FX...), dislodge them from Premiere's protective shield and submit them to the Vegas might ! Satish rules !!!

cough ... cough ... hmmmm ... I am ok now, no worry.

(now, I just need to see if Satish has a brother who codes audio, so he can get me Smartsound integration into Vegas ... <g> <G> )

Hey sqblz, your idea of keyframing Virtual Painter is a good one....but as I have found( used it on footage in Aura and AE), it is generally too flickery, depending on the footage. What is mean is that because it is written as a still image plugin(which it looks great for), when you treat video footage with it, each frame looks so different from the last it will give you a very busy, excited sorta look...can be good at times. Unlike something like Video Van Gogh, which interpolates the brush strokes to give a living painting sort of look.

The sort of thing you are probably looking for to achieve this effect is either Artmatic (uisoft) or Studio Artist(www.synthetik.com) Unfortunately both are native to the Mac, and I have been bugging these companies about a PC port for some time, not being a priveliged Macolyte myself. Bottom line is that Artmatic will never get ported( straight from the horse's mouth...."buy a mac" I am told by the developer....in your dreams buddy!) .The good news is that Studio Artist is being ported as we speak to the PC...good to see someone with business sense ;)

But at the same time, I would be happy to get any 8bf or aex filter working in Vegas!

satish, would it be possible to port Genarts Sapphire plugins to vegas? i mean that plugin pack is the god of all plugins! i dont think there are any for adobe products though, i tried it using avid.

Zendorf, I *knew* that you were an expert, now I am sure that Satish is in good "advising hands".

Video VanGogh never heard about. Will explore a little.

Maybe (just maybe) something could came out from an happy marriage between technology from good image painters (Photoshop, Painter, ...) and the Winmorph plug-in made by "our" Satish.

Right now we have that in Vegas, whenever we drop-in an fx and keyframe it. Vegas calculates the intermediate frames and gives a smooth result (even has a smoothness adjust). It gives quite amazing results, for example with the Chroma Warp or the Convolution Kernel.

So, we are not very far from success, are we ?

First i'm looking at aex and prm, then 8bf... others are for future work. :)

You're tops !!!

"First i'm looking at aex and prm, then 8bf... others are for future work. :)"

FIRST, he says. Thank goodness for good people.

On the other hand: I got out of the Army and Government because I never could understand (remember) the alphabet soup. Still don't. Any translations of the above would be appreciated.

Excellent news Satish.....cheers!!!

Out of complete ignorance can I ask what of plugins "prm" are?

prm = Premiere filters
aex = after effects plugins
8bf = photoshop plugins