Satish Frame Serving. V4.0c hangs.

Grazie wrote on 6/20/2003, 5:32 AM
I must be doing something wrong.

1 - Open an instance of V4.0c

2 - Save Project as "Test Frame Serve 1a.veg"

3 - Import captured avi into Media Pool

4 - Place same Video file onto Track 1

5 - Highlight a small portion of Track 1, 10 seconds out of 5 mins.

6 - File>Render As . .. > Name file "Test frame Serve 1a.avi", set directory where F/S avi to go to.

7 - Select Frame Serve from menu

8 - Frame serve window pops up

9 - Import "Test frame Serve 1a.avi" back into project

10 - Attempt to place file onto T/L >>>> Vegas hangs, with another Frame Serve warning appears asking me to search for frame serve option.

So:

A : What value does F/S give me? - Have read posts, but still don't get it.

B : What am I doing wrong?

I'd really like to see what efficiency frame serving can give me - over and above Rendering to New Track - so, by experimenting I can confirm what it is, it is exactly doing.

Apologies for being a NumbNutz on this,

Regards

Grazie

Comments

mark2929 wrote on 6/20/2003, 8:43 AM
Grazie The idea is your project appears as an icon say on your desktop or where ever you place it and then be opened in another editing package like say virtual dub maybe you want to do something vegas cant do or cant do well perhaps rotoscoping or perhaps in my case I can open up from vegas timeline straight into alamdv without rendering.
Former user wrote on 6/20/2003, 8:49 AM
It looks like you are tying to Frameserve from Vegas to Vegas. There is no point in doing this. Frameserving is for serving to another application so you can utilize features that it might have that Vegas doesn't.

Dave T2
mark2929 wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:05 AM
Grazie I know your gonna love this once you realise what it can do
filmy wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:11 AM
Grazie, not that this helps at all - DMN Forum.

Also I am not sure but maybe you can not name the project and the file the same? I had to re-read your post to make sure I was getting it - you named the project 'Test frame Serve 1a.veg' and than frame served an avi as 'Test frame Serve 1a.avi' and then brought that file back into the 'Test frame Serve 1a.veg' right? As long as the files your are serving are still open on the timeline it should work ok BUT from what i get people who are doing this are actually opening *another* instance of VV and bringing the frame served project into that. So in your case keep your 'Test frame Serve 1a.veg' open and than open VV again and start a new project and import 'Test frame Serve 1a.avi' into that. See if that prevents the crash.
mark2929 wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:20 AM
Filmy you will have to forgive my lack of brainpower here but why would you send it out then bring it back perhaps you can add filter fx or something then loop it back Im quite interested in anything about tthis excellent plugin at the moment
filmy wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:30 AM
mark2929 - VV does not support nesting of projects. So someone had the idea of frame serving a VV project into another VV project.

An example is - say you have built some sort of 'dream' sequence with lots of effects and several tracks of audio that needs to stay in sync. So instead of building this sequence within the 'main' project you build it in it's own project and than frame serve it out to your main project. Now instead of having multiple tracks of audio and picture for this sequence you only have one track in your main project.
satish wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:37 AM
You mentioned you started serving from one Vegas instance. Did you click "stop serving" and then import the .avi into the same instance? If so, that is not the correct way.

As long as you are frameserving, you should not do "stop serving". So that means you can only serve between Vegas instances, not from one instance to itself.
mark2929 wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:43 AM
Filmy- thanks for that sometimes I have had upto 30 tracks of audio and video going on I have never found a problem with this apart from the small annoyance of not seeing the video or audio track that perhaps you want to match personally though I would prefer to keep everything together instead of farming out different bits but I can understand why some people may want a tidier work space I assume whatever method used it has no effect on the finished film or does it
If this was why it was developed then the other options of using other programs is absolutley stonking.
mark2929 wrote on 6/20/2003, 9:46 AM
Satish I would like to thank you personally for all the work you have done you have made me one very happy amateur film maker
josaver wrote on 6/20/2003, 10:12 AM
Grazie, frameserve the avi to another instance of Vegas, and don't stop the first instance.

If you want to stop and go back another moment or day, first start the first project or you must have an error.

Josaver.
Grazie wrote on 6/20/2003, 12:04 PM
Hey Guyz - I'm Home!!! - Been out all day . . . Okay - I did try to use a separate "instance" of V4.0c. That hung itself too - so to speak!

Why should I bother to frame serve to another instance of the same application? I think filmy was on the money here. I just wanted to see what I could use with F/S to improve my productivity - maybe I will, maybe I wont. - If I got U-Lead Cool for graphics, and if Satish's can work with Cool, then maybe I could use it there. - I don't have Premmi; now that I'm completely converted to V4, I don't have another NLE I'd bother using.

Sooo... I'll have a further play and see what I can come up with. I'm likely to get it sometime on Sunday . . .

However, I'd like to thank you all for your kind support you've shown me - truly!

Thanks buddies,

Grazie