Saving and trimming problem

tomadonna wrote on 8/5/2005, 5:50 AM
There seem to be an issue in Vegas, I'm trying to save a project using the "Copy and trim media with project" option.
The clip is about 3.5 minutes, but it is resulting in about a 3.5-4 GB project when I save it using this option.
Knowing that in relation to the length, all the AVI's should result in a much smaller file size, I examined the rendered clips thoroughly and discovered this:
Whenever I used a clip in slow-motion i.e. inserted a velocity envolope to it, Vegas would render the whole clip (!) and since I had a few clips with velocity envelope in this project, the resulted size was much begger.
My question is, is there any way to resolve it other than to obviously render the slow-motion clips into the project before saving it into a final folder...?

Any help would be appreciated!

Tom

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Grazie wrote on 8/5/2005, 11:01 PM
My firsts thoughts would be to check EXACTLY what AVI format you are rendering to? If it is UNCOMPRESSED AVI, and this is NOT what you wanted, then the files would be very big in relation to, for me, a PAL DV-AVI - yes?

Check what format you are rendering to. The slomo, IMHO, is a red herring. Well I have done loads of slomo stuff and all it is, is that it is the same as the PAL DV avi I would normally create - yes?

Grazie

tomadonna wrote on 8/6/2005, 3:41 AM
Hi Grazie,

I think you misunderstood my problem,

I'm referring to a project that is being saved into a folder in my computer, AFTER it has been edited and is in its final edit. I'm stricly saving all my project (including only the used clips in the timeline) in order to archive it for future reference.
It is not a project that I'm rendering to a final AVI, but rather using the "save and trim" option in the save as dialog box.

Hope this is clearer.....

Tom
Chienworks wrote on 8/6/2005, 4:08 AM
This is a known issue with Vegas. The official explanantion was that with the velocity envelope applied Vegas wouldn't know how much of the file is used in the project. I'm not sure i agree with that since both rendering and preview know what frame to end at while playing the file. For that matter, if you've zoomed in enough to see individual frames on the timeline the last frame to be used is displayed there. I think this would be possible to fix.

One workaround is to create a new copy of your video file with the velocity envelope applied, then replace the original in your project with this new file and remove the velocity envelope. Trim will then function as you expect. The other is to pre-trim the file yourself by making a new version that only includes the necessary portion.
tomadonna wrote on 8/6/2005, 6:05 AM
Hi Chienworks,

Yes I used this method exactly (creating a new copy of every video file with the velocity envelope applied) but surely SONY should understand the peskiness and inconvenience caused in a project containing many velocity applied clips.

I hope this will get fixed/upgraded in future versions.

If someone from SONY can comment on this, it would be even better...

Tom
Grazie wrote on 8/6/2005, 7:05 AM

OK! - Yes, I got it wrong. And thanks, I'll keep my eye out for that one. V6c? Maybe?

Grazie