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Caruso wrote on 2/16/2003, 2:27 PM
You enable it (I don't use it, and V4 is tied up on a long render at the moment, so I can't be specific on the clicks you use to enable . . . I think you'll find it under preferences in the vidcap application) . . . and it will use your time code to detect when you started/stopped your cam during recording, and break those segments into scenes.

This is unlike the approach taken by that other "P" company in thier Studio product. They use contrast variation to detect scenes. Vegas' approach is more predictable, but Studio's approach can also be very useful if your footage doesn't contain a lot of variation in contrast within scenes. Something like a strobe or lighting changes (in a stage play, for instance) might fool the Studio's system into forcing a scene break.

Both systems work, however, if you like using scene detection.

Personally, I find it easier to record in one continuous chunk and then, simply split scenes as I see fit. Often, I want to split the video and re-arrange it without interrupting the sound track (something that's very easy to do in Vegas - last time I tried, I couldn't do it at all in Studio, although things may have changed since I last used that product).

I know you weren't asking for the product comparison, but, I figure understanding how Vegas differs from the other product in this area is part of understanding the nature of how it works.

Good luck . . . hope you find this reply helpful.

Caruso
vicmilt wrote on 2/16/2003, 2:51 PM
Hey Caruso,
Thanks for the good info.

But if VV needs continuous time code, how does it know where the new scenes begin?

And, (as I am asking in a few other postings), I'm trying to digitize about 16 hours of footage with gazillions of separate scenes. I also in the past (with AVID MC) would digitize everything, and then break it up. How do you keep track of your various scene clips?
jetdv wrote on 2/16/2003, 2:55 PM
Vegas uses the DATE and TIME that the clip was recorded to determine whether a scene changed. For example, if this frame was recorded at 6:00 p.m. and the next frame was recorded at 6:15 p.m., the camera was stopped inbetween those two frames - hence a scene change. The TIMECODE has nothing to do with the scene change. Therefore, if you don't have the date and time set on your camera then this function will not work. BTW, this feature works VERY well.
vicmilt wrote on 2/16/2003, 8:50 PM
Hey Jet...
thanks - it's so obvious, - - once you know !
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GaryStebbins wrote on 2/17/2003, 1:38 AM
If you are capturing DV via firewire, then Studio does use the timestamp information for scene detection. Although you still do have the option of doing scene detection based on video content.

Gary
vicmilt wrote on 2/17/2003, 7:05 AM
What is "Studio"?
How do you get the choice of scene detection options?
jetdv wrote on 2/17/2003, 8:09 AM
Scenalyzer Live will also do optical scene detection as well as time/date scene detection. It's a $33 program that is well worth having as it can also capture 4-channel audio.
Ronbo wrote on 2/17/2003, 12:44 PM
"Ditto" on jetdv's comment regarding 'Scenalyzer Live'. Works great for breaking up optical or time-date scenes.

But, as mentioned above, it (or anything else I'd venture to guess) can get fooled by a strobe/flash/etc into thinking it was a scene-change.

Two thumbs up for Scenalyzer.
Caruso wrote on 2/18/2003, 4:20 AM
Studio is Pinnacle's NLE. Not really in the same league as Vegas, but a good value, nonetheless. For me, when SF sorted out weaknesses in their vidcap component (way back in version 2, I think), coupled with my move first to Win2k, then to XP, Studio came off my machine and will probably never go back. Sorry my answer was a little off the mark regarding how Vegas detects scene changes. Is this like horse shoes where I get at least some points for being close?

Caruso