Scene Detection Issue

BlueStreak wrote on 2/16/2008, 3:56 AM

I just got Vegas and did my first video capture (using "enable HDV scene detection") but there's a problem - each of the clip files has a few frames (2-6 usually) from the following scene tacked on to the end. Any ideas? Thanks.

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TLF wrote on 2/16/2008, 4:02 AM

In my recent experience, Vegas is not yet ready for HDV work.

The integrated capture utility - VidCap - does not work, as you have discovered, and (apparently) Vegas does not like HDV clips captured by HDV Split.

So, to sum up, forget about using Vegas with HDV files if you want certainty.

John_Cline wrote on 2/16/2008, 4:04 AM

It isn't quite a dire as Worley claims it is, lots of people, including me, have successfully done tons of HDV work in Vegas.

The extra frames at the split has been the way Vegas has worked ever since HDV capture was implemented. It's a bug and a problem. There is currently nothing you can do about it other than use HDVSplit to capture HDV files. HDVSplit isn't perfect either, but it does get the splits correct.

HDVSplit Web Site

Chienworks wrote on 2/16/2008, 4:19 AM

I'll also point out that any reasonable camera operator would have recorded some extra head and tail at the beginning and end of each scene. A few frames error should be a complete non-issue.

John_Cline wrote on 2/16/2008, 4:37 AM

"A few frames error should be a complete non-issue."

Agreed.

TLF wrote on 2/16/2008, 5:54 AM

I am in a very bad mood with Vegas, but I will be fair - when it works, it works very, very well, better than any other editor.

But when it fails, it's a pain in the backside.

Alas, with HDV, Vegas stinks... It can't capture correctly, red/black frame, poor playback frame rate, awkward 32 bit workflow... These are problem that others have asked to be fixed, but Sony Creative remains blind, deaf and dumb.

JJKizak wrote on 2/16/2008, 6:04 AM

Like I said before I think a lot of (not all) the problems V8 is having are related to IRQ "clashing", ----when you have 8 USB's, 2 networks, 2 1394's, 8 SATA's, 2 video cards, printers, ---23 IRQs are gobbled up and sometimes you will have 6 items on one IRQ. In the old days your machines would not even boot with this much stuff.
JJK

blink3times wrote on 2/16/2008, 6:49 AM

"A few frames error should be a complete non-issue."

It IS an issue. For starters, It's a pain in the ass to edit this way,The tail pecon on the time line with a finishing clip is the same as the head pecon on the starting next clip. It gets quite confusing when you are running 200 clips on multiple time lines. And secondly, why should one have to put up with this error in the first place??

I will say that I don't think that it's all Vegas's fault. I have one cam that captures fine and another that captures consistently 3 frames late

BlueStreak wrote on 2/16/2008, 8:06 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I was hoping someone would say "oh, just check this box and you're cured". Since there appears to be nothing I can do about it I will just say the Serenity Prayer and move on to uncovering my next issue.

Mahesh wrote on 2/25/2008, 1:49 AM

I have an opposite problem. I have scene detection turned off. Vegas HDV capture program broke up a 60 minute capture ( on a locked off camera ) in to 5 chuncks. That would have been fine except it lost about one second of footage from each chunk.