SCS products and my 64 bit concerns.

farss wrote on 9/24/2008, 6:32 AM

Probably this is a dumb question and I should just slink away and do some research or maybe right off their head someone can put my mind at rest.

It seems inevitable that at some point I'll have to switch to Vista 64.
My question is what about all the other SCS apps that I like and use?
Sound Forge and CDA, especially CDA.
I doubt I'll ever get 64bit drivers for my old Plexwriter that's mastered a lot of CDs. Yes, I know I can kind of do it with Vegas but CDA is just so much better at the task and the old Plextor burners are as good as they get apart from the even older realtime burners. I really hope CDA doesn't fade away. It was huge when it first came out.
Perhaps the answer is to just keep another machine running XP, this whole dual booting thing somehow doesn't entice me too much.

Bob.

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megabit wrote on 9/24/2008, 6:36 AM

Bob,
I don't know about CDA, but Soundforge works OK under x64 and both the 8.0c and the 8.1 see it (i.e. I can open/edit their audio events in SF). Whether this will all ever get 64bit throughout - who knows?

farss wrote on 9/24/2008, 6:44 AM

So from what you're saying in theory at least 32bit apps will run under Vista 64, all I need panic about is drivers?

Bob.

megabit wrote on 9/24/2008, 6:46 AM

Absolutely!

PS. I should have added though, that those SCS apps that can act as plug-ins do not work with the 8.1 yet, even though they work OK on their own (like Cinescore).

farss wrote on 9/24/2008, 7:19 AM

Got it.

Many thanks
Bob.

Jessariah67 wrote on 9/24/2008, 7:30 AM

I'm running everything on XP64 and have only found one thing that doesn't work on it - and that isn't a SCS product. 8.0 and 8.1 coexist just fine, though 8.1 is basically useless until it sees thrid party plugins.

Robert W wrote on 9/24/2008, 7:32 AM

Would you need 64bit drivers for the writer? I would have thought you would only need drivers for the ide/sata/scsi interface. Writers all work to the same standard these days as far as I was aware.

Spot|DSE wrote on 9/24/2008, 8:04 AM

So many folks prolly don't know what CDA is, Bob...but we're keeping older machines running. Heck, we're still running an old Mac IIsi for an automation system. Sucks, but there it is.

farss wrote on 9/24/2008, 8:23 AM

Didn't think of that. Man we need to educate these newbies.

Just for their benefit.

CDA = CD Architect. I believe it was the first Red Book compliant audio CD burning software. I wasn't in this game back when it came out but anyone who was sure knew about it and most likely used it.

I still use it for two reasons:

1. It is one of the few apps that supports CD Text. Not many players display CD text but what the heck, no one can say I short changed them.
2. It prints the cue sheets that duplicators like to see. I put them along with a report from Plextools into the case and put a tamper proof seal on the case.

You might think none of this matter much. However the duplication house my client uses was so impressed with my diligence they referred work to me.

Bob.

Coursedesign wrote on 9/24/2008, 8:29 AM

Agree on CDA, it's great to use a single-purpose tool that really works.

But CD Text is available even in $50 Roxio and other consumer programs.

Note that many if not all cars with LCD screens support CD Text, and it is nice to see what you're hearing when you hit the "CD" button after not having played a disk on your car for a while/

Just like you can see what song or program is playing on an FM station, thanks to a similar feature.

Jessariah67 wrote on 9/24/2008, 8:38 AM

Mac IIsi - WOW. I still remember my Mac with the HUGE 20MB external hard drive...

It may suck, Douglas, but I gurantee you it works better than my dual core iMac which is so plagued that a complete restore didn't fix it...

Coursedesign wrote on 9/24/2008, 9:53 AM

If it was under warranty or you got AppleCare, you'd get a new one for free.

3-year AppleCare with onsite service for my 8-core MacPro cost me only $130 from a legit reseller on eBay.

Kennymusicman wrote on 9/24/2008, 11:10 AM

If it helps - in Vista 64 I run:
SF8, SF9, V7, V8, V8.1, CDA, A7, Cinescore

Obviously not EVERYTHING works in 64bit under WoW - but pretty much everything I've thrown at it has worked excellently.

John_Cline wrote on 9/24/2008, 11:39 AM

From my experience, the 32-bit versions of all SCS products run fine under Vista64.

jabloomf1230 wrote on 9/24/2008, 12:00 PM

I only have experience with Vegas 8P, but it runs fine under Vista x64. I do recall, however, several posts here that mention a crash on start up of Vegas 8P under Vista x64. I'm guessing that these few complaints relate to the hardware setup on that particular computer.

Terje wrote on 9/24/2008, 3:09 PM

Where can I download Vegas 8p? Have they fixed the 32 bit color space rendering problem in that version?

John_Cline wrote on 9/24/2008, 3:24 PM

There is no Vegas 8.0p, but I'm sure you knew that and you were just taking a swipe at Vegas. There actually is a version 8.0p, it's available to everyone but you. :)

jabloomf1230 wrote on 9/24/2008, 5:56 PM

Dats dee shorthand for Vegas Pro (P get it?) Version 8. My bad. ;-)

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 9/24/2008, 10:04 PM

Far as I know farss, CDA is basically pointless ever since Vegas started offering basically everything that CDA did.

Correct me if I'm wrong?

Dave

farss wrote on 9/25/2008, 3:31 AM

Sure you could certainly look at it that way.
Then again I've got Word, Wordpad and Notepad on this PC.
I still use Notepad if I just need to put some text into a file to save away somewhere.
I see CDA the same way. I do all the audio editing in Vegas. Render each track out as 16/44.1 and then use CDA to create the master for replication. It will insert the 2 sec silence automatically or conform the tracks if needed. Yes I could do all that in Vegas but when you're doing a lot of audio CDs it just helps my brain to shift focus from one task to another. Some of the titles I've worked on are over 10 CDs to the set.

Bob.

MarkWWW wrote on 9/25/2008, 5:08 AM

But Vegas doesn't offer everything that CDA does. I'm pretty sure there are others, but the most important feature for me is CD TEXT.

Mark