Senn ME66 vs Rode Videomic

Laurence wrote on 8/7/2005, 7:35 AM
The day before yesterday, I went over to a friend's house to see the equipment he is putting together for a production audio job on a low budget movie.

I brought my Sennheiser ME66, my Rode Videomic, and some Sennheiser cardiod laveliers that I bought from microphonemadness.com. He had just bought a T-powered Sennheiser 415 from someone on ebay. A 415 is a predecessor to the 416 and as far as we know, very close sonicly.

Well as can be expected the 415 sounded much better than the ME66. Better ambient noise rejection, better full frequency response, more natural high end, great sensitivity etc.

What surprised the heck out of both of us is the Rode Videomic actually sounded pretty close to the 415! It obviously didn't sound quite as good: there was a noticable subtle difference, but it was in the same ballpark. Both the 415 and the Videomic blew the ME66 out of the water sound quality wise, but the difference between the 415 and Videomic was much subtler. We also were using about a ten foot Radioshack 1/8 inch to 1/8 inch extension by the way.

In fact, the difference was so great, that I'm going to shelve the ME66 in favour of the Videomic for the time being when I need to boom an interview. It just sounds so much better. I would never have believed it if I hadn't done the test myself.

So here's my conclusion: in the world of low budget audio with a prosumer camera like a VX2000: Audio quality wise, you are better off with a Rode Videomic and a a 20 foot eight inch extension than you are with the typical ME66 / Beachtek setup that so many of us (myself included) are currently using!

Now I understand why the Videomic has that boom pole threading on it's underside. It really is a viable boom mic!

Comments

farss wrote on 8/7/2005, 2:20 PM
One of the big local music shops tells me they're selling on average one per day and there main business is selling guitars!
I've heard Rode will also be making a boom pole, no doubt of decent quality and at a decent price. If you've never forked out for a boom pole you wouldn't know that they can be a quite indecent price!
Bob.
Laurence wrote on 8/7/2005, 2:30 PM
I have an aluminum boom pole with an internal coiled cable. Yeah, it was several hundred dollars. I priced some really light graphite ones but boy where they expensive!
Laurence wrote on 8/7/2005, 2:59 PM
Here's the Rode boompole for sale at B & H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=392860&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

$80. That is a good price. It probably is pretty decent quality.
GlennChan wrote on 8/7/2005, 4:17 PM
Laurence, those are really interesting results!

Would you happen to have audio clips so people can hear the difference for themselves?
Grazie wrote on 8/8/2005, 12:11 AM

This is strange.

I've done a ganged Rode and M66 test and the M66, IMHO, is more sensitive and appears to blank more peripheral audio. Interesting. Do you have a "graph" or Vegas Waveform we could have a lookm at? I did a very quiet test pointing at a ticking clock at about 2 metres. The Senni was more sensitive to the tick/tock than the Rode.

I'd still load my senni for recording. Hey, the price of the Rode is just such a massive boon .. I could purchase the equivalent of 4 Rode VMs to one M66, and needed, K6 module! PLUS you get the isolating supoort.

Grazie

PeterWright wrote on 8/8/2005, 1:08 AM
Bob, I tried ordering a Rode Boom Pole from Videoguys Australia, and they rang to warn me that they have no idea when it will be available! He wondered if Rode may have prematurely released details/cost before finding out if they could produce at that price, but B&H say 14 days .....
farss wrote on 8/8/2005, 1:18 AM
The info we have from local agent is that it's coming.
I guess one could ring Rode! If I get time I'll try ringing them tomorrow.
Bob.
Guy Bruner wrote on 8/8/2005, 6:10 PM
If you only have a need for a short boom pole, use a monopod. Screws right in, works great.
Laurence wrote on 8/8/2005, 10:26 PM
What do you know, the monopod works great. And to think I had one lying around the whole time! The Videomic also has a regular mic stand threading I noticed.
WedVidMan wrote on 8/9/2005, 2:08 AM
I got my boom pole at Home Depot -and I can change out overhead lights when I'm not doing the audio thing. At Ace Hardware, I bought a magnet that was threaded for a broom handle, and I took a mic clip apart for the other half of the adapter. Viola, boom pole for 40 bucks.
Grazie wrote on 8/9/2005, 2:23 AM
Gaffer Tape, old bamboo canes from garden shed - er .. 20p? Once used goes back to holding up Sweet Peas! - G
BrianStanding wrote on 8/9/2005, 7:40 AM
I use an aluminum paint roller extension pole.
Laurence wrote on 8/9/2005, 1:40 PM
Here is a $29 Best Buy monopod. I have one and it works great as a boom with the Rode Videomic:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6238715&type=product&id=1069300859536

If you really want to go all out, you can spend $53 and get the deluxe model:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7302689&type=product&id=1118842310062