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rmack350 wrote on 11/24/2003, 3:44 PM
I'll bet you've been using Media 100.

jetdv has a script set that includes some commands for this. It's part of his Tsunami product. Very inexpensive.

You may be wanting the select events keycommand in order to grab stuff and move it out of the way. Rather than doing this, get to know the manual rpple commands. Then you can move one event and ripple the rest.

Rob Mack
craftech wrote on 11/24/2003, 7:27 PM
If you have any gaps it won't select to the end, only to the gap.
farss wrote on 11/24/2003, 8:09 PM
I've tried using these 'ripple' editing modes. There OK if you've only got one A/V track, try it with multiple tracks of audio and video and see what happens. Pretty embarrasing when the client brings back a DVD asking why Act 3 is at least 5 seconds out of sync. Yes I know I should check everything but when you have to churn them out AND hate opera to boot it just isn't economically viable.

Being able to so easily get audio out of sync isn't good.

What is missing is some visual cue as to what's locked to what (or grouped), I cannot even see a way to determine if after selecting 5 events and hitting 'G' if they really did get grouped. Last night one event refused to join the group if I selected all the events at once but if I grouped four of them, selected just one of the events in the new group and then selected the 5th event and hit 'G' they all got grouped.
GaryKleiner wrote on 11/24/2003, 8:12 PM
craftech says:
>If you have any gaps it won't select to the end, only to the gap. <

You're talking about Select Events To End? You are mistaken.

Gary
PDB wrote on 11/25/2003, 2:18 AM
I agree entirely with farss: it is important to see what is gruoped and what isn't...

As regards the "select events to end": the ripple edit is great but not helpful for fine-tuning. I mean, when you insert/delete/move events around which have been carefully edited together, the last thing you want to do is re-edit them all (cuts, disolve times etc...) if you insert/delete/move an event before them. I keep having to "select events to end" to fine tune transitions all the time...but there again, I must be a strange person! I know I could group them- but that is cumbersome: much simpler to right click and "select events to end", but would be even simpler to use a shortcut or press a button...
I just think this edit function is fairly straightforward and I would love to be able to programme it into one of the buttons in the shuttle...

Oh well, If it is not a general issue, I'll keep it to myself.....

Cheers,

Paul.
Spot|DSE wrote on 11/25/2003, 2:58 AM
Paul, don't keep it to yourself, this has been brought up before, and let die. It's a nice feature to consider, IMO. Problem is, how do you shortcut it? Nearly all the reasonable keys are used for shortcuts as-is. ALT+P for "Put together? CTRL+S+E for Select to End? Find a shortcut and labeling it so it makes sense is more difficult than you'd imagine. Perhaps key mapping would help. This can't be assigned on the Shuttle Pro because there is no macro nor keystroke associated with it. CTRL+ALT+END?
Either Windows or Vegas has eaten up all the reasonable/sensible keystrokes, but I'll be some creative soul will comprise a combination.
PeterWright wrote on 11/25/2003, 5:45 AM
Paul,

I may have misunderstood your drift, but "Select Events to End" is a Track specific operation, and is liable therefore to interfere with relationships with events on other tracks not selected.

With V4, Post Edit Ripple, Ctrl/Shift/F has made life so easy, because it moves everything to the right of the moved or altered event, including Markers and Regions, and therefore keeps all those relationships, dissolves, synch etc intact. The only thing to beware of is if any Events are left Locked, as these will not move when everything else ripples. (I've put in a Product Suggestion that a warning window tells us when this is so.)

With Ctrl/Shift/F on a single button on the Contour Shuttle Pro, it's even easier.

If you only want to ripple affected tracks there's F or Ctrl F too.



jetdv wrote on 11/25/2003, 6:26 AM
For a powerful method of selecting events, try Tsunami. For selecting on a single track, try "Select Events to End". For selecting ALL events, try CTRL-A. For de-selecting all events, try CTRL-SHIFT-A. For selecting specific events, try SHIFT-Click and CTRL-Click. For large-scale selections, zoom out on the timeline and use the selection tool.

To me, Tsunami is quickest in most instances.
Erk wrote on 11/25/2003, 10:11 AM
On the grouping question, I agree that some kind of visible sign that something is/is not part of a group would be helpful. I don't what that would be though.

Greg
PDB wrote on 11/25/2003, 10:59 AM
Actually Spot put me on the right track: ie windows thinking...just right click on event and press "n" (now I feel really stupid...) Now does anyone know a windows command for right clicking? - might then be able to programme the shuttle button...though it may not be that necessary anymore...

By the way, I want to thank everybody for your very helpful suggestions. All posts have really got me thinking and actually prompted me to read the new features pdf file that came with Vegas 4; I must make a mental note of re-reading that file regularly to remind me of things I seem to forget.

One thing worth noting (came across it in my "reading"...) is that "select event to end" works across several tracks if needed: just select the left-most event you want on each track using Ctrl + click, right click and press "n" ...
Also (re)discovered the pressing the wheel mouse function...oh well, so many things to learn/remember.
and I thought I was beginning to get to know this programme: very presumptuous on my part...

Once again, a big thank you to everyone,

Paul.