should I buy VF v1.0 or v2.0

victoria wrote on 7/29/2002, 1:43 PM
If I were to save myself $30 by acquiring VF v1.0 rather than getting v2.0, would I end up regretting it? I already have software to burn VCDs, and I don't need a lot of fancy transitions, so I'm leaning towards spending that $30 on something else... Are there any other significant differences between the two versions that should give me pause?

Thanks!

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discdude wrote on 7/29/2002, 5:50 PM
Here's what I think are VF2 greatest improvments over VF1

1) VF2 creates multiple-segment files to work around the FAT32 4GB limit.
2) Support for multiple fonts in tilter.
3) Interactive Tutorials
4) Lots of nice credit roll templates
5) Media Pool
6) Twain Support, Audio CD Extraction, VCD Creation Tools, etc. Sure, I've got other programs to do these things, but its handy to have them built into the program.
7) Windows XP support (this rates low for me since I use Win 98SE)

My biggest disappointments with VF2
(1) Initial versions were buggier than VF1, especially if you had a AMD K6 processor (VF2 would freeze on you). In fact, the MainConcept codec still barfs if you have a K6. It's fixed in VV but not yet with VF (where its more likely to find someone who still uses a K6).

(2) Capture/Print-to-Tape still pretty much useless for analog video capture.

(3) Trimmer, Scrubber controls disabled by default. I'm not a fan of the trimmer, but a mediocre trimmer is better than none.

While VF2 is mostly the same as VF1, there's lots of nice little additions that add up to a overall better program. I would spend the extra $$$. I look forward to VF3.
JimClark wrote on 7/29/2002, 6:35 PM
Discdude

Could you explain to me the trimmer, scrubber function you talk about?

(3) Trimmer, Scrubber controls disabled by default. I'm not a fan of the trimmer, but a mediocre trimmer is better than none.
Thanks
Jim Clark
Former user wrote on 7/29/2002, 7:45 PM
Discdude, I assume since you said they are disabled by default, that you know how to enable them (YOu can enable them using the hidden preference file).

Dave T2
miketree wrote on 7/30/2002, 3:08 AM
I'd go for V2.0. It may be a little extra cash, but it's still superb value for money.
JimClark wrote on 7/30/2002, 1:15 PM
DaveT2

Can you explain a little more about how to enable the features and how to use them?
Thanks
Jim Clark
Chienworks wrote on 7/30/2002, 4:02 PM
JimClark (hey, you're not the Jim Clark who used to work with me at Audiosears, are you?)

Here's my standard diatribe on the hidden thingies you can enable:
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=12&MessageID=112198

This allows you to also turn back on the trimmer and the scrubber. BE CAREFUL!
JimClark wrote on 7/30/2002, 8:23 PM
Nope never worked there
Jim
maccullo wrote on 7/30/2002, 11:18 PM
Just tried enabling the trimer/scruber function by holding shift while clicking on preferences. Then you'll see the Internal tab on the preferences. Be carefull what you change here! I changed the fDoubleClickLoadsTrimmer to TRUE. You should notice a TRIMMER tab on the bottom where the media pool is. This looks similar to that other s/w we all dislike, VideoWave which allows you to trim the media prior to putting it on the timeline.

cheers
Ian
maccullo wrote on 7/30/2002, 11:19 PM
Just tried enabling the trimer/scruber function by holding shift while clicking on preferences. Then you'll see the Internal tab on the preferences. Be carefull what you change here! I changed the fDoubleClickLoadsTrimmer to TRUE. You should notice a TRIMMER tab on the bottom where the media pool is. This looks similar to that other s/w we all dislike, VideoWave which allows you to trim the media prior to putting it on the timeline.

cheers
Ian
IanG wrote on 8/2/2002, 4:33 AM
I decided to look at VF as a replacement for Studio DV. So far I'm very pleased with what I've seen, but I'm a bit worried by the idea of "hidden features". Are these realy a concern or is it just a disagreement over what the user interface should look like?
Chienworks wrote on 8/2/2002, 11:09 AM
IanG, this is totally a guess, but my feeling is this: VideoFactory is a trimmed down version of Vegas. There are many advanced features that are unavailable, and a certain set of basic features was decided upon for inclusion in the software. Presumably after extensive testing a few features were found to be too confusing or unnecessary for typical VF users, so these features are removed from the interface by turning them off internally. This was apparently done to keep novice users from getting lost in some of the advanced features they wouldn't need. If you want to turn them back on you may.

If, on the other hand, you do want all the power and features that are available, look into Vegas instead of VF.
IanG wrote on 8/2/2002, 5:25 PM
That makes sense - thanks! And no, I don't want all the power and features of Vegas Video; I just want something that will allow me to make a reasonable job of editing the holiday footage. In about 2 years I've needed the trim tool in Studio exactly once!
Chienworks wrote on 8/2/2002, 8:31 PM
You should be fine then. You can do an amazing amount of trimming in VideoFactory right from the timeline.
IanG wrote on 8/5/2002, 4:23 AM
OK, I've bought it!

I see what you mean about the hidden features, BTW, the only one I understood was the trimmer!
Toneconsultant wrote on 8/8/2002, 10:57 AM
I have VF 1.0. I've been scared to upgrade to VF 2.0 because I had VideoWave 4 and I spent almost a year trying to fix that thing. My computer finally crashed down to a blank screen. I had to re-configure my whole computer. I lost everything inside my computer. Anyway, VF 1.0 is working pretty good. I haven't had time to actually do a finished VCD (That's my only goal) because I've been testing little things ( didn't want to waste time with something I really wanted). I think I'm ready to go. Now someone runs the "Upgrade to VF 2.0" article. Any suggestions? Will VF 2.0 give me anything better than VF 1.0, when it come to making a VCD?