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Ivan Lietaert wrote on 11/15/2007, 9:09 AM
Yes. In Vegas Full you can use the secondary color correction plugin to achieve this effect.
In Vegas Platinum, use NewBlue's Colorize effect to achieve the same effect.
tbeck11 wrote on 11/15/2007, 9:15 AM
Does Vegas 6 = Full version?
Ivan Lietaert wrote on 11/15/2007, 10:56 AM
No, here is:
Vegas Movie Studio 6
Vegas Full 6
Vegas 7 Pro (=full)
Vegas Movie Studio Platinum (7)
Vegas 8 Pro
Vegas Movie Studio 8
Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum

My guess is you have VMS6. You cannot do what you want. You need to upgrade, like I did recently, to VMS8 Platinum, which is $49 (+$10 taxes if you live in Europe).
skintback wrote on 11/15/2007, 1:10 PM
I have Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 7
but don't have secondary color to do this. Would I use the new blu ?

Don't have mask tab either, Will I have to up grade for this?
Thanks
Ivan Lietaert wrote on 11/15/2007, 2:09 PM
no, you can do it with the newblue colorize videofx that comes with Platinum.
Here is an example:
http://www.vimeo.com/387995
Paul Mead wrote on 11/16/2007, 2:14 PM
To truly do this right you would need a mask or some other way to make only the jersey red. Since this is a still it would probably be easier to use a photo package like Photoshop, etc.
Ivan Lietaert wrote on 11/16/2007, 9:08 PM
Paul, what do you mean with 'to truly do this'? Why isn't my example 'true'?
dibbkd wrote on 11/17/2007, 6:07 PM
Do you mean picking out a single color like this:

click on "Color separation example in Sony Vegas" on the link below:

http://www.myhax0r.net/videos/Vegas Tutorials by dibbkd[/link]



Paul Mead wrote on 11/18/2007, 6:29 AM
You got me there, Ivan. I hadn't bothered to look at your example. I guess I need to spend more time with that effect to see what can be done with it.
mickbadal wrote on 11/20/2007, 1:55 PM
That's really neat...I'm on VMS 6.0 and don't have the $ to upgrade right now. I wish there was some way to pull of this effect using 6.0....<sniff>

anyone know a way to at least get close to this effect in VMS 6.0?
Tim L wrote on 11/20/2007, 2:05 PM
You could TRY this, but I haven't tried it myself, and don't know how well it will work. (And I'm not at a computer with Vegas or VMS installed right now...)

Put two copies of your video on two separate tracks, one above the other. They must be exactly in sync, of course.

Now apply the Sony Chromakey effect to the *top* track. Use the eyedropper to select the jersey color as your "chromakey background color". Play with the sliders -- this should make the jersey color transparent. This will let the bottom (full color) track show through.

Now on the *top* track apply the Black and White effect. Make sure this effect is *after* the chromakey effect in the effects chain.

Hopefully, the result is a black-and-white track on top, with transparent jerseys that let the full-color version of the same clip show through from the bottom track.

If you need help with adjusting the sliders on the Chromakey, search this forum or the web (or vasst.com) for tutorials. In this case, getting a "perfect" key is probably not very critical.

Let us know if this works.

Tim L

Ooops: I see you are talking about doing this with a still rather than video. Everything will still be the same as above, though.
mickbadal wrote on 11/20/2007, 2:24 PM
Actually I was talking about doing this effect on motion video.

Thanks for your suggestion! I have tried something like this but couldn't get it to work. Perhaps I wasn't doing the right thing with the "chromakey background color". I will experiment a bit and get back to you.
mickbadal wrote on 11/20/2007, 3:05 PM
I BELIEVE I JUST PULLED IT OFF IN VMS 6.0!!!!

Here's what I did; slightly different than what Tim said, I think:

1. Three tracks of identical video. Leave all set to “alpha” for the moment.

Top track: Add chroma keyer effect (blue screen is fine). Select “show mask only”. Press “eyedropper” button and select color you want to isolate from the preview window. Adjust high and low thresholds until just the desired color is still showing; everything else has turned white or near-white. Set track to mask/multiply.

Middle track: Add black & white effect. Set track to *child*, leave as alpha.

Bottom track: Normal (full color), leave alpha, leave as a parent.

This seems to do the trick. You were on the right path, Tim - thanks!
Tim L wrote on 11/20/2007, 4:19 PM
mickbadal -- I'm glad you got it to work. I just played with VMS 6 a bit here at home and I think my original suggestion with two tracks will work and will probably produce the same results as what you've accomplished.

I think when you use the chromakeyer effect set for "show mask only" and then mask/multiply that with a child track of the same exact image, that you are essentially getting the same result as applying chromakey to a single track with "show mask only" turned off. As long as you then apply the black-and-white effect to that track *after* the chromakey, everything should work okay.

But regardless, if you have a working solution and you don't need the extra track, there's no need to change it.

Tim L
mickbadal wrote on 11/20/2007, 7:57 PM
Indeed I was missing something - I looked back on your original post and saw that you mentioned *two* tracks, not one.

Now I get what you're saying, and I got it to work in VMS with two tracks. (I read my previous post, and slapped my forehead, the answer was right in front of my nose!) Awesome tip - I'll be using this effect soon. Thanks!