Almost no difference running NVENC via Voukoder apart from GPU going to 100% usage rather than 77%, so I would say I'm at the limit. Latest NV drivers are also installed correctly.

By source media do you mean the original video before it's re-rendered? I use a camcorder so am stuck with MP4 as that's all it will record in, then I just chop it up adjust with a few filters, add branding overlay then re-render it out as MP4 again.

Yes, I mean the media in VEGAS you are going to render into a new file. If it were ProRes does it go any faster? Vegas has to read the media before it can write it. Not saying it's a necessary or reasonable workflow but if you first rendered the entire media to ProRes and then replaced the media in Vegas you can see if it yields more FPS.

Voukoder shows you 100%, great. Probably not such a big time difference.

 

 

However when it comes to my regular workflow doing some basic 4K video rearrangement, both cards are rending 4K video at 36FPS, both at 75% CPU and 55% RAM.

So clearly with lots of plugins and effects added, the 3060 Ti destroys the 1050 Ti, however I'm wondering why the basic 4K rendering both top out at 36 FPS?

Is there anything else I could look into in order to push this further than 36 FPS?

Your hardware encoder is sitting there waiting for rendered frames from Vegas which it then encodes. Vegas's efficiency is what results in your final encode figure, you are getting 36fps, but I get 54fps, and RogerS or someone with latest AMD or Intel CPU's will most likely get faster. It is because they can push more frames into the encoder for a given period of time.

Vegas's render engine efficiency is not very good, so if you run your encoding test on Capcut(Free) you will most likely find it encodes much faster then the 54fps I get on Vegas or even whatever RogerS gets on Vegas

These are my figures for encoding 1minute of 4K24 AVC via Nvenc

Vegas 27 seconds (AVC) (Voukoder)

Capcut 8 seconds (AVC)

Capcut 7 seconds (HEVC)

Not that you should replace Vegas with Capcut, efficiency alone doesn't make a good editor, but I use it as an explanation to say your hardware isn't as poor as it seems with your encoding results, but it is an expected result for Vegas. I may have you confused, but I think you have the AMD 5600 CPU, so if you got the 5900x that I"m using you should get 54fps. I guess it depends on how long the videos are that you're encoding, 36fps is still quite reasonable and for shorter projects the difference in encoding speed won't make much of a difference.

Also watch TaskManager, anytime your CPU is peaking near 100% you're losing speed, or on a timeline you could be gaining lag.

Hi, thanks for that information. Yeah I'm using the AMD 5600, 54FPS sounds like it's worth the investment in the higher end 5900x CPU in the near future before the AM4 is discontinued.

Most of my videos go for between 10 and 25 minutes, but I also often render out video as I'm editing to properly preview any changes and plugins before editing further. The current CPU runs at about 75 - 80% when rendering.

 

@RoyE Hi, can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments, thanks 👍

@Former user All done, thank you :)

@RoyE have you tried any of @RogerS benchmark tests yet?

Hi @Reyfox yeah I did them, the performance is fairly good but I was just surprised the old and new card had similar maximums for basic 4K rendering.

Big difference in the benchmark, but standard 4K rendering both hit 36FPS.
3060 Ti = 01m : 15s    Average 10.20 FPS
1050 Ti = 06m : 20s    Average 2.34 FPS

I think it's the CPU like @Former user mentioned, he has a similar setup and can achieve higher FPS rates with a nearly top tier CPU and same GPU, mine is a lower entry level CPU.

For just a straight transcode the GPU may not have so much to do. In general a fast CPU + good enough GPU is a better choice than the opposite in VEGAS (and why I built my new system the way I did).

These are my figures for encoding 1minute of 4K24 AVC via Nvenc

Vegas 27 seconds (AVC) (Voukoder)

@Former user Hi, I use Voukoder most of the time for quick mp4 renders because it is quick but reading your comment above i just wonder how it compared to mine, whist eating my dinner 😋

I dragged an MP4 UHD 30p clip onto the timeline that had been previously rendered with Vegas, triplicated the event & trimmed it to 1min, then rendered using Magix AVC & Voukoder

I then did the same with one of the full 1min clips on the timeline, similar results, Magix 35secs-ish @ 50 & 54fps, Voukoder 46 & 50secs-ish @ 35 & 38fps 🤷‍♂️

I didn't watch the Taskmanager..

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Here it is again

You selected a NVENC preset within Voukoder?

@RogerS If I open that preset up it's on H.264 (x264). I don't know why i wrote (NVENC) in the name 🤷‍♂️ I must have changed it a while back for whatever reason

Good to check. Can you also change x.264 to NVENC and compare times? Otherwise it's not really a fair comparison (better comparison to Mainconcept).

@RogerS Hi, just did that while you were writing, much better performance 🤷‍♂️🤣

1min render of UHD 30p avg 77fps 23secs 👍

Thanks,

Good Quality (recommended almost the same render results 👍

@Former user Try also Voukoder HEVC NVenc render. Renders even faster then Voukoder AVC NVenc, at least at my system. Play also with changing the Quantizer rate from 23 to 25/28, will dramatically change filesize/bitrate without visible quality loss.

@3POINT I believe Voukoder default is 250 but I have it set at 25 after conversations in another post about 'Long GOP' ?

This clip is 3840x2160 30p & Magix movie that I've used for 20 yrs sets the GOP to whatever the frame rate is, ?

I'll try HEVC but I've avoided HEVC because there's always been talk of it not fully compatible yet with all software.. I don't mind the size of any file to be honest, I have plenty of space, I'm converting my files to ProRes with Adobe Media Encoder or straight out of Vegas because the playback difference in Vegas is night & day.

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Voukoder HEVC NVENC Quantizer rate 25, almost the same time, fractionally faster

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Voukoder HEVC NVENC I set the Quantizer rate to 30 (Like Magix does) & this clip has a frame rate of 30, Render time faster still 😂👍