Some editing questions

CLWaldroff wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:12 PM
I've been using Vegas Pro for a month now and I'm very impressed and happy with it, coming from Premiere (ugh) 6.5. I can't seem to find answers to a few things in the manual.

1. Title saving - where do the sony titles get saved? I'd like to be able to save my titles somewhere to access them later.

2. Select events to end - why does it only work on a single track, why not all the events? Right now I have to use the selection tool and highlight all the parts and then shift everything, or group everything and then ungroup. Am I missing something?

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Grazie wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:27 PM
1 - Copy the Title "Event" from one veg to another. Also, depending on how complex your title has become, you could save it as a Preset and you'd have it Globally available to new veggies. OR just have a Title Veg and introduce it into new veggies as a Nested veg.

2 - I use Ripple Edit. I grab the very first Event, and this will move everything to the right.
bStro wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:32 PM
1. All generated media settings (including "titles") are saved within the project they're created in. To access them later, you would open that same project. Alternatively, you can create a title the way you want and save it as a preset. This will store not only the settings you used but also the text you entered.

2. *shrug* If you need to move everything at once, you may as well turn on Auto-Ripple. (Temporarily.)

Rob

Edit: Rob types too slow. Go, Grazie!
Grazie wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:38 PM

(Temporarily.)

Rob types too slow.



. . . though I left out that most important Government Warning!

johnmeyer wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:40 PM
Titles are saved in the VEG file and you cannot export them or save them separately. It is a terrible oversight and flaw, because it makes spell checking almost impossible. Don't expect Sony to ever change it.

You can use a script to select all events from the current position to the end of all tracks. Johnny Roy wrote one years ago called SelectEventsFromCursor.js

This is the description from that script as to what it does:

* Description: This script will select all the events on all tracks that are
* under the cursor position and to the right of it.

That may or may not be exactly what you want, because deciding exactly which events should be considered "to the end" is tricky when you talk about multiple tracks. For instance, if the cursor is in the middle of the timeline, and the event below the current track extends from the beginning until the end of the project, should it be included? Or, should only events on other tracks which start after the current position of the cursor be included? There is no correct answer. Even the same person might want different behavior under different circumstances.

So, a script can do what you want, and the one mentioned above might do the trick, but then again, it might not.
Grazie wrote on 12/13/2008, 1:47 PM
Titles are saved in the VEG file and

Sure, but how about my Preset idea John?

The one I like more and more now-a-days is the Nesting option.
johnmeyer wrote on 12/13/2008, 3:34 PM
Sure, but how about my Preset idea John?I guess that does answer his question about "getting access to them later." However, I was thinking more about how you can access the entire collection, especially once you have dozens or hundreds of titles. I have about six title presets that give me starting points for lower third, etc. However, when I tried to have more, I couldn't remember which one was which, and since there is no thumbnail or other graphic that shows what the preset looks like (as you have in many dedicated titling programs), that wasn't very helpful. Of course, I still haven't installed 8.x, and perhaps the titling program upgrade has all of that ...
CLWaldroff wrote on 12/14/2008, 11:26 AM
Great guys. Thanks. I think I'll use the preset feature for the titles. I do a lot of videos where I use the same titles over and over with preset sizes, styles, shadowing, motion, etc. I used to keep a bank of them in a folder for Premiere and it was nice to just reuse them.

As for the select to end thing . . . dang, I don't understand how this isn't a built in feature? In Premiere you had two different selection tools "single track to end" or "all tracks to end" and I used it a lot. Ripple edit is fine, but it doesn't work so well if you don't want everything to snap to the first segment. If you want to move everything back or forward a bit, then you have to reselect the whole thing again.


CLWaldroff wrote on 12/14/2008, 11:28 AM
I just thought of something . . . if I reuse specific titles for specific projects I could just save a small project file with all the titles, and then simply open that project up everytime I wanted to reuse that specific set of titles.
Grazie wrote on 12/14/2008, 12:00 PM
. . yes . .
PeterWright wrote on 12/14/2008, 3:41 PM
I think if you play with Ripple a bit more you'll find it can do what you want.

Personally I never use Auto Ripple, I prefer Post Edit Ripple, which ripples manually if you choose to use it. Ctrl/Shift F moves everything located to the right of where you make the change (I have it as a single button on Contour Shuttle Pro) - no selecting is necessary.
If you move or lengthen/shorten an event, or insert time at a point on the timeline, a grey bar appears above the timeline, showing that Vegas has remembered exactly the length of the move. Pressing Ctrl/Shift F will move everything to the right by exactly that amount, whether it is one frame or several minutes. Thus the relative position of all the work you have done further up the timeline, including markers, is preserved.

edit - One caveat is to make sure that no events are locked before performing Ripple, as they will stay where they are whilst everything else moves.
musicvid10 wrote on 12/14/2008, 8:47 PM
Didn't see this solution posted, so thought I'd offer it for "recycling" a number of titles among different projects:

I create and save each title as a separate .veg, name it the same as the first line of title text, for instance Overture.veg, Act-I.veg, End.veg, etc. and save it with the original project . When I want to re-use it, I nest it in the current project.

Might not be as practical if you have hundreds of titles with similar names, but for creating several cuts of a DVD movie, for instance, it works great.