"My other Muse is also about Software - The Vaio comes with Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0 and an editing program owned by SONY called DV Gate. This is not just an old piece of software - it is HDV enabled. What is going on????"

. .I hear yah Brother . . I certainly hear you, loud and clear!

.. hmmmm....

Software is out to produce BD disks, from MMS no less.
A full BD authoring setup runs to around AUD 100K, the Sonic setup around AUD 200K.
I believe however there are other ways if all you want is a basic disk that'll play a movie with no fancy extras.

Funny thing about the much valued extras on DVDs. Nearly always rather boring and I find of very little value (to me). I'd always rather they gave the space over for less compression of the feature.

Serena - I think I know what you are saying - forget all the "extras" - I agree -in this case it's not a DVD but a 200 Gb laptop, but I agree. There's so much software on this wonderful machine that I don't want or need.

I was mainly wondering how long it would take for Sony Vaio to start pushing Vegas - this DV Gate software shows that there are two presumably separate groups of Sony employees developing video editing software ( not to mention Xpri, which is a bit different).
Then there's the old question of Sony including Adobe bloody Premiere ....

Peter,
have a dig around in that Vaio, I think it's the MediaGate software. Comes bundled with a lovely set of audio plugs from Sony's Oxford division. The guys who write lots of wonderous stuff for Protools.

Now you'd think the Madison team and the Oxford team would all be happily dancing to the same tune as they're both audio guys but no such luck it seems. Don't find a mention of Vegas or SF or Acid on the Oxford web site.

Not sure Bob - not much mention of audio in the help files - a few acknowledgements to licences from Dolby Digital, but very little to say where it comes from ...

I'll see if I can check it out on the VAIO the boss bought.

Originally the VAIO was purchased to run DV Rack but then I got asked to use it to edit HDV with PPro LE :)

Actually, this isn't quite so. You can purchase Avid DVD by Sonic

Just got my copy yesterday, looking forward to burning some discs and shipping them around.
Peter, this app will run on your new VAIO, and yes, you can/should be able to burn BD discs on your VAIO. Not to mention playback.

There seem to be a few old faces kicking around in this space (at the mere mortal end of the price range):
Other authoring tools

To have to wait for DVD 4c to catch up to the level of the cheapy alternatives would be acceptable. ;-)

There is still life in the IT formats for "HD" delivery using computer/bespoke-player and hard disk/red-laser disc IMHO. Standards are standards and keep us on our toes and either onlooking or poor!

Those links are for players, not authoring software.
What's really irritating to me, is that before BD recorders were shipping for the past year, we've heard "BluRay supported" from several software companies. Yeah?...Where is the BD authoring capability in Nero, Encore or DVD Workshop or DVD Factory? Oops...it disappeared after they announced (and shipped) their new authoring tools.

Spot, SonicDVD w/ BD support is only available in Avid's Studio Toolkit right because I didnt see an option to buy it seperately.

Where is the BD authoring capability in...............

Please do look closer. The link I posted did end you up rather high in the hierarchy of each manufacturers products - ie rather high up in the chain. I figured more and more would be added to the list over the next months. I'm fairly sure the intentions of the original link were to present creation tools rather than players. I also considered it better than a list of specific BD authoring apps:

anyway........ the claim is that these are more than BD Ready - they are BDAV capable albeit with a simple take on the level of authoring achievable. No doubt the licensing costs the earth but this is the 2nd time around:

Cyberlink BDAV authoring

and

MovieFactory Convert in real-time to High-Definition BDAV ; Record directly to BD-R/RE discs in one pass

Ulead MovieFactory BDAV authoring and concatenation support

Google for "BDAV format" or "BDAV Sonic" for more collateral.

Mediostream seems to be a bit late given that they were quite fast to market with their DVD-Video products. Whether these tools tick all the boxes will take some further investigation. The Sonic technology space would be where these weaker wannabes would like to be heading towards but sometimes immitation at the lower end is enough to get volume sales.

I don't believe everything I read - but I also don't believe that the HD delivery formats need to cost the earth or need to cover the full scope of the specifications that the standalone players have to honor to gain their badges.

Again, I have the Ulead Movie Factory, and it does not work. I didn't see the Cyberlink Authoring application when I searched around there, but am going to be ordering it in a moment; we'll see if that functions as advertised.
Avid's Studio Toolkit works very well, FWIW

Spot,

Does the Ulead product work at all? Autoplay/Stop or loop? My employer just purchased this and we are awaiting its arrival.

DVD Studio Pro 4.1? Anyone?

Corey

yes, the Ulead authors "DVR" type discs, it's the menus that don't seem to work. There is a new burnpak coming, it may fix the problem. For sub 100.00, it's a very nice option, if it works.