Somewhat frustrated!!! HELP!

RadicalRob wrote on 10/28/2003, 1:49 AM

I rarely come to forums blatently screaming for help but I must at this point.
I just rebuilt a complete system to strictly do editing and what not. Here are the specs:

I'm running a Intel P4 2.4ghz with 1 gig of ram, I also have a Adaptec SCSI 19160 Ultra160 SCSI card with an IBM 30 gig SCSI drive partitioned with 10 gig for system, 20 for multimedia.

Im using the PYRO BasicDV firewire card that came with Vegas4.

I installed Vegas when the machine was built, then I transfered the card from the original machine into this one, attempted to Capture a video element with constant dropped frames. I've updated my WinXP machine with all the current drivers for everything and that didn't work.

I am able to record to DV device going into my Sony TRV11 camera, but for some reason it doesn't like my Canon XL1.

Should I uninstall vegas, and re-install it so that it can read my firewire card appropriately or does that even matter?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Or if someone could point me to some awesome setup sites for configuring my system.

btw, I run vegas on my vaio laptop as it is to capture and it works perfect there. So I've been capturing on the laptop, then transfering over to my multimeda system. Grrr.....

THANKS!!

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ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/28/2003, 2:01 AM

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Liam_Vegas wrote on 10/28/2003, 2:04 AM

Try moving the firewire card into a different slot... that will choose a different IRQ for the card and may solve the problem.

There is a whole big FAQ (answer ID 306) with LOTS more information and suggestions of things to try in the knowledge base.

-Liam

RadicalRob wrote on 10/28/2003, 2:50 AM

Aha, thanks Liam! I checked and they were running both running on the same bus. As soon as it's done rendering this segment I will switch the slots and hope for the best!

RadicalRob wrote on 10/28/2003, 8:54 PM

Hey Liam,
I switched the card slots and my cousin that built the machine said that it's all on 1 slot. He don't know what else to recomend either then getting rid of my SCSI card or the firewire card.

Now Im not sure why but it worked in my older P3 800 machine, same SCSI card.

Im totaly lost and frustrated! Suggestions?

Liam_Vegas wrote on 10/29/2003, 2:44 AM

Sorry I don't have a lot of additional advice over the FAQ
answer id=306

Following those steps cured my problem.

Good luck... I know how frustrating these things are!

-Liam

farss wrote on 10/29/2003, 3:09 AM

Um,
if you can PTT to the TRV11 but not the XL1 I'd suspect the camera.
In any case so long as you've got one device to PTT to it shouldn't be a big issue, in fact I'd be using the cheaper camera, wear out the heads and transport in that, not the XL1.

pb wrote on 10/29/2003, 5:24 AM

ditto to using a cheaper camera. Good advice.

JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/29/2003, 5:29 AM

I had a similar problem once. If you just put the card in another slot and tried again, then you have 3 more slots to go! That’s right, you may have to try every slot because they all behave differently. This did not solve my problem, however. I had to go into the BIOS and luckily was able to reserve IRQ’s for particular PCI slots and then put the cards in the slots I wanted (or something like that).

Unfortunately Windows XP is very broken in this regard. You’d think someone could teach the programmers at Microsoft that a good standard queuing algorithm would be to fill all the empty IRQ’s before doubling them up, but WinXP just loves to put everything on one or two IRQ’s and leave several others open. You may have to disable ACPI as the “answer id=306” link above suggests.

~jr

farss wrote on 10/29/2003, 5:42 AM

I'll offer a bit of a further heads up on that. Where i work sometimes, we actively doscourage customers from using the cameras we hire as VCRs by not including firewire cables in the kit.

In general VCR transports are designed to withstand the stresses of shuttling tape and they're usually a bit cheaper to repair than camera transports. On top of that they're a lot cheaper. I know I've you'e mortgaged the house and mother-in-law to buy a camera the last thing on your mind is buying a VCR even at half the price of a camera.

If you do a lot of work though it's money well spent, also VCRs, paricularly the good ones are better at tracking tapes that are slightly out of alignment. Canon cameras seem pretty prone to this problem. Whether its a design issue or just the poor local servicing I don't know.

If you do get a camera serviced just record a few minutes of video and then play it back in a VCR or ANOTHER camera. This is not a very precise head alignment test but its better than none. If your camera has a hard life I'd be doing this test regularly.

We had one customer who had his camera repaired then did about 3 wedding shoots, tapes played back OK in the camera, he sent the tapes off to the editor and then realised he had another minor problem with the camera so had it repaired again. When he got it back tapes from the prior shoot wouldn't play. He rang the editor to see about the last batches of tapes, he'd forgotten to tell him they wouldn't play in his VCR and now they wouldn't play in the camera either.

So first repair they got the heads out of alignment, second time they fixed it even though it wasn't mentioned on the service docket. Footage was eventually recovered on a top line VCR. He was lucky.