No, No, the best Keyer now available for Vegas is actually the new
Chroma Key Studio filter in BCC 9.... And you have the one also in Hitfilm Plugins.

Thanks

I'm not going to make money by using it so I guess Boris is no option for me.
I didn't realise there was one in Hitfilm, is that the one you get with VP13 or is that the one they offer in the webstore ?

Is there still no Keylight for Vegas?

RE: KeyLight Chroma Key equivalent for Vegas?
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=818890

I am going to check the BCC9 too then.

VMP

When working to create Greenscreen - you should never chase your goal with a more expensive software purchase...good money after bad will be your result.

First order of business is to learn how to light the scene - spend your big money on lighting or rental of same.
Second, learn the correct workflows
Third buy or rent a camera shooting 8bit 4.2.2 or better

Then upgrade your software.

VideoITguy,

Thanks for your advice it's appreciated, but since I already have both Chroma Key plugins in VP13 I was just wondering if one of the 2 is considered to be "better" so I can use that one, it's not like I'm going to purchase yet another Chroma Keyer.

When you follow all of what I previously stated - you will get better keys with NewBlue Pro ChromaKeyer. How much better will depend on what I just stated, not the choice of the software.

videoITguy,

Can you point this newbie to some more information ?

tutorials/information for :

Lighting
the correct workflow
...

I did some google searching and unless I'm searching the wrong way I cannot find decent information on howto correctly use NewBlue Chromakeyer Pro.

This might help.
http://newbluefx.com/helpfiles/VideoEssentialsVI/Win/Corel/chroma_key_pro.htm

say what?

http://newbluefx.com/helpfiles/VideoEssentialsVI/Win/Corel/chroma_key_pro.htm

and

Since I don't have the funds for Boris, New Blue is better for me then Vegas Chroma Key which I've been using for 5 years. NB "Erase spill" function really helps.

Wayne

Thanks for the links !
I really appreciate it.

Rather than use the Vegas Chroma Keyer, on less than perfect footage I find I get better results because of more flexibility (can select on luminance, saturation and hue) using the Secondary Colour Corrector,
yet I never see anyone else mentioning it here. Am I unusual? What, is anything, is the downside to this?

I found the CK in HitFilm Ultimate a real eye opener. But for some things I still find the SCC preferable (my most recent use had some turquoise jewels which I struggled not to key out with HF, but SCC worked adequately (not a perfect but "Good enough")

Chroma keying and SCC are two very different things for different purpose. However, I usually first use SCC to get a better more uniform chromakeying background and then I use the Vegas Chromakey and I usually get very good results this way.

"Chroma keying and SCC are two very different things for different purpose."
Always happy to learn.
Whilst SCC has many more uses, I 'd be interested in the difference between using SCC to select the background and then remove it and using SCC to make the background more uniform and then removing it in CK.
(Sorry if I'm drifting off topic)

SCC doesn't "remove" the background, CK does..it actually turns the selected color into "transparent". By first applying SCC, you can correct for improper lighting of the Chroma screen which makes it easier for CK to process the image.

If, in SCC I select the background, then reduce the value for "Alpha" (within SCC) to 0, does this not remove the background (ie change the colour to "transparent")? This is certainly what appears to happen. And it's how I did most of my keying before I got HitFilm Ultimate.

Take this for what its worth, which might not be much.

I don't have use for Keying but I once keyed the sky on a mountain bike video to put a star field there. The sky was varying blue with translucent wispy blue'ish clouds and white clouds. I got rid of everything but the pure clouds and I did feather into the horizon a little.

Vegas Chroma key could not get a an acceptable result. Not even close. NewBlue Chroma Key Pro did easily get me something useful quite easily.

I think the only thing one can take from this, for real CK work, is that NB CKP is probably more tolerant of less than ideal CK backgrounds.

@Tim

You are right! I never noticed the Alpha slider. It almost works the same way but you don't get the Blur slider in SCC which can help with the edges. I still prefer my SCC + CK method.