Sony help one more time or anyone?

david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 7:13 AM
I noticed that the vegas explorer window does not have a function or does not order things correctly. Example. I pull in 120 photos in the media view or just up in explorer and the no.s of the pictures are all in a funky order. Not in correct no. order. How can I get these to all be in the right order so I can pull them to the timeline without having to do this manually. Could get tedious after about 50 pix. ; )
Thanx muxh
DR

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SonyEPM wrote on 5/14/2004, 7:24 AM
Sort in media pool using the text view, drag to timeline.
david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 7:44 AM
It still takes all the nos and does not put them 1/2/3/4/5. It goes by the first no; 1/10/100/102/103/ 2/20/200
I need theses to be in a simple order of 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/etc., to pull up on time line. Not good to have to manually do this while windows explorer does this for you.I hope Vegas does as well??
DR
RafalK wrote on 5/14/2004, 7:48 AM
I'm not in front of my computer, but if I remember correctly, you can drag thing from the windows explorer, directly into Vegas timeline. Can you try that and see what happenes
mcgeedo wrote on 5/14/2004, 7:58 AM
It may be too late, but I always create file names as numbers like abc001, abc002.....abc010, abc011. These always sort in the correct order.
JJKizak wrote on 5/14/2004, 8:56 AM
Its not going to do what you want it to do until you renumber your photos 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.

JJK
david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:07 AM
They are numbered 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc. already.
Still no correct no. when dragged either.
Thanx guys for your input as well here. ; )
I do mean that!!
DR
david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:19 AM
Ok. This is ridiculus how this is not working. Gotta be a way here. I try to highlight them in the proper order to drop in the media pool so I can drag ALL IN ORDER to the timeline since I have proper cross fades already to go between them.
What gives with this. It still tries to go 1/10/11/12/13/14 then 2/20/21/22/23/etc.
Tell me there is something simple here right???
HELP!!
baysidebas wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:28 AM
The reason is that the sort is alphabetical. Think about it for a moment and you'll realize that the sort is correct.

There are utilities which allow you to rename files by many different criteria and would make it easy for you to change the filenames to something that would sort correctly.

One of them, and the best to my thinking, is NameWiz.
You can find it at http://SoftByteLabs.com
JJKizak wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:29 AM
I see what you mean. Perhaps someone can come up with a "numbering script" to allow for single digit first, double digit next, etc.
Try Johnmeyer on the "script " section of this forum.

JJK
david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:32 AM
Any more clues here?? I have tried everything really. I know SPOT has said how you can just set your cross fades under editing and then drag all your files up at once to get them on timeline at same time. That works but no.s are out of order still. What gives?
baysidebas wrote on 5/14/2004, 9:35 AM
Give NameWiz a whirl. It's a 30 day full featured trial. You have nothing to lose.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/14/2004, 10:21 AM
OK, there was a thread about this a while ago. :)

You have Windows XP. Windows XP DOE NOT list the files properly. It is a GUI thing ONLY. Goto the command line & list the files. They will be in 1,10,11...2,21,22.... order. The files were mis-named when origionaly named (a sequence should ALWAYS be 001,002... always have leading 0's). You could of done this, or a program could of done this for you (if it was a program, shame on the programmer! Bad programmer!).

What you can do (which is what i do) is hold down CTRL. Then select 0..9. Add those. Then 10..99. Add those. 100..999.. add those. Infact, I sometimes list by the date, NOT alpha order (since normaly file 1 is made before 10). Then select my files.

What I did notice is that V5 DOES list files improperly. Example:
V4 file listing:
01.jpg
01-03-03 copy.jpg
01-03-03.jpg
02.jpg
022404.jpg

V5 file listing:
01-03-03 copy.jpg
01-03-03.jpg
01.jpg
02.jpg
022404.jpg

That makes no sence because in V4 it IS correct (01-03-03 copy should come after 01) but in V5 it lists 01-03-03 copy before 01, but then it lists 02 before 022404. I assume there was a font change in V5 & the ASCII codes changed (if that's how they list them).
johnmeyer wrote on 5/14/2004, 11:26 AM
Several people have given you the answer:

Windows sorts based on first letter (or number), then second letter (or number), etc. This is the correct way to sort when sorting alphabetically. Since file names usually consist mostly of letters, this is usually correct.

If your file names start with numbers, and you want to have then sort according to the numerical sequence, rather than the alphabetic sequence that Windows uses, you have to includie leading zeros in the file name. Include enough zeros so that your smallest numbers have as many digits as your largest number (e.g., 001, 002 ... 323, 324).

johnmeyer wrote on 5/14/2004, 11:29 AM
Several people have given you the answer:

Windows sorts based on first letter (or number), then second letter (or number), etc. This is the correct way to sort when sorting alphabetically. Since file names usually consist mostly of letters, this is usually correct.

If your file names start with numbers, and you want to have then sort according to the numerical sequence, rather than the alphabetic sequence that Windows uses, you have to includie leading zeros in the file name. Include enough zeros so that your smallest numbers have as many digits as your largest number (e.g., 001, 002 ... 323, 324).

RafalK wrote on 5/14/2004, 11:43 AM
Hmm, just a thought, if they are sequential files and you haven't modified them out of order, you could sort by date.and that should list them in the proper order
david-ruby wrote on 5/14/2004, 5:29 PM
Amazing the help on this. I thank all for this, but I did not have this problem in vegas 4. I have always used 1/2/3/4/5/6--110/111/112 etc. No problem.
Strange to me but I will try what the masses suggest.
Thanx to all on this as well. I appreciate all your help!! ; )
DR