Sony need Fx plugin to make subtitles with Datecode

Bilboz wrote on 10/18/2004, 2:46 AM
If not into subtitles .sub file then retain Datecode info in the rendered output.
This way it can be used in 3rd party product to achieve the goal of subtitles.

Please note: I am referring to Timestamp/Datecode. In Vegas its called “date/time stamp”
** Not Timecode **

Why ?
1. As I Shoot video of my kid throughout the year(s) and then at some point start assembling the footage I find that both me and my wife ask ourselves when was that shot taken (how old was our kid)

2. If date/time info is in subtitles then it can be toggled off/on as not to disrupt the video in anyway.

"If you put two clips on the timeline with a transition between them, the resulting render will retain the clip's original date/time stamp except in the transition area."
So no big deal. The subtitle will be missing some info for a few seconds.

Comments

frazerb wrote on 10/18/2004, 5:15 AM
<<"If you put two clips on the timeline with a transition between them, the resulting render will retain the clip's original date/time stamp except in the transition area.">>

I don't believe this is true in Vegas. Most other editors do just what you said, but you can put a clip on the timeline when you print it to tape, the datestamp changes to the currect date and time. If you know of some way to retain the original information, please let me know.

Buddy
rs170a wrote on 10/18/2004, 5:51 AM
See if any of the utilities at http://www.skydiver.de/stef/datecode_en.htm will do what you want, specifically DV_DateCode. If yes, please let the forum know. Thanks.

Mike
johnmeyer wrote on 10/18/2004, 9:06 AM
I've wanted to do this script for ages, and have participated in several threads about the subject. Here's one of them from about fifteen months ago:

Time / date stamp script?

Problem is, Vegas scripting doesn't provide access to the date, time, or timecode information, or anything else that is actually in the video or audio stream. This is too bad because one of my original ideas was to do a script that would let you capture a DV tape in one big chunk (so you'd have only one AVI file) and then look for discontinuities in the timecode and either split the event or insert chapter marks at these points. This would give you scene detection within Vegas (rather than relying on having a discreet file for each scene), which is how Pinnacle does it. There are MANY advantages to this approach.

Obviously, once you gain access to date/timecode, you could put it into the title generator to do date/time overlays; scene detect (as already mentioned); insert markers at only date discontinuities, but not at time changes (or any variation of the time changing more than a certain amount, etc.). You could also re-organize the media bin based on date/time of all clips. I can go on, but the sky's the limit.

In one thread about 18 months ago, the Sony guy who's done most of the
coding on the scripts made the statement that they didn't think it was a
good idea to do anything that required a script to look at every frame in a
video stream (which this would have to do). I took that to mean that they
would probably never provide this facility.

Here are some threads that provide information on how to use third-party utilities to do some of what you wanting to do:

A very, very nice Date/Time stamper for DV files

Burnt-in Datacode
Bilboz wrote on 10/18/2004, 9:46 AM
johnmeyer

Once Vegas render the project it replaces the datecode data with the date it was rendered

This makes other products kind of useless, unless I’m missing something
BrianStanding wrote on 10/18/2004, 9:56 AM
If you're using unrendered DV footage (i.e., no FX or transitions) AND you're playing back from a DV device (either print to tape or to an external monitor from Vegas) , you can simply turn on the "Show Date/Time" feature on your DV deck or camera.

This works whether you're playing captured files from the hard disk, or from a DV tape. Once you render any FX or transitions, though, this data is lost.
Bilboz wrote on 10/18/2004, 10:02 AM
>In one thread about 18 months ago, the Sony guy who's done most of the
coding on the scripts made the statement that they didn't think it was a
good idea to do anything that required a script to look at every frame in a
video stream (which this would have to do). I took that to mean that they
would probably never provide this facility.

I see there is a Fx named Timecode which puts the Timecode info into the Video
So to me this seems about the same. Plus on rendering the Datecode is generated with the current date (wiping out original Datecode) then it shouldn’t be that big of deal.
Bilboz wrote on 10/18/2004, 10:07 AM
BrianStanding
This is archival information. So when my kid is 20 years old and I’m watching the Dvd made 18 years ago. I know when each shot was taken.
BrianStanding wrote on 10/18/2004, 1:53 PM
This technique will also work (at least on my DV deck) if I record off the analog ports of the DV VCR (i.e., a VHS dub).

Doesn't help you if you're making a DVD, though....