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Spot|DSE wrote on 4/30/2006, 8:04 PM
That's sorta like asking if you should buy a Palm Pilot if you already own a computer. They're very, very different tools, not related to each other in any way.
Cinescore is for scoring music to video, Vegas is for creating the video that you'd score with Cinescore.
I've got a fast first look at Cinescore if you're interested
rmack350 wrote on 4/30/2006, 10:14 PM
Hi Douglas,

Just out of curiosity, how much time do you think you would spend with Cinescore to put a finished score to that movie?

You did a lot in half an hour but obviously there's going to be a bit of time spent making decisions and trying things out.

Rob Mack
Grazie wrote on 4/30/2006, 11:20 PM
Rob? What movie? - This is a very exciting platform. September? Toooooo long!

Grazie
Spot|DSE wrote on 5/1/2006, 6:54 AM
Well, the biggest challenge, just like any library, is knowing the assets, and that's going to be very, very difficult at first, other than using the descriptors in the moods. I think I'd have no problem finishing off a score in a couple days for a television feature or doing a :30 spot in half an hour or less.
Remember that I did all that in half an hour of *learning* the application too. I'm already faster because now I understand the workflow better. Most of the music that comes in the library is good. Some is exceptional, a few "moods" are lame.
Grazie wrote on 5/1/2006, 7:46 AM
Douglas? Where IS this movie you did using CS? I'm too excited! - G
riredale wrote on 5/1/2006, 7:55 AM
Okay, so then where does CS fit in with regard to Acid? I'm not competent with Acid (yet), but am I correct in assuming that Acid handles micro detail while CS handles macro details? In other words, you use Acid to create a "work" comprised of a rhythm and melody, but CS takes a whole bunch of works and creates a "project."
PeterWright wrote on 5/1/2006, 8:27 AM
Acid is by far the more sophisticated - it is a complete music workstation, with loops, multitrack audio and midi/soft synths.

Cinescore sounds extremely subtle and clever, but it is based on pre-recorded music passages.

- but either can be used to make music for video or film.
sujaram wrote on 5/1/2006, 9:06 PM
Hi Douglas,

Thanks for the clarification. I am clear now about what cinescore could do for me. I have visited your Fast first look page too. As Peter pointed out, I can use Acid to do the same, unless I want clever cinescore later point of time.

thanks for all your input.

regards
rmack350 wrote on 5/1/2006, 9:47 PM
The "movie" was the spot that Spot used as an example. A short tourism bureau type of piece promoting the great state of Utah.

Rob

rmack350 wrote on 5/1/2006, 9:54 PM
It seems like it falls somewhere between having a subscription to a music service and making it yourself with Acid.

What I'd imagine is that you'd assemble music from finished parts. You'd still need to be familiar with the library and with the software so it's a little more work than just qoing through the mountains of CDs a subscription service would have sent you over the last year.

Rob Mack
snicholshms wrote on 5/1/2006, 11:26 PM
Think Sonic Fire Pro clone
Edward wrote on 5/2/2006, 3:55 AM
like rmack pointed out, are there going to be updates or genres like acid loops?
Spot|DSE wrote on 5/2/2006, 5:31 AM
Sony announced that they'd soon have several libraries, so I'd assume that there will be several genres. Whether they'll be sorted such as "weddings" or "romantic events" is something I can't comment on.
Wes C. Attle wrote on 5/2/2006, 2:17 PM
This is a good move by Sony. I need this product. Acid was too loopy for my needs.
farss wrote on 5/2/2006, 3:04 PM
Agreed, even if I had the talent to use Acid there just isn't the budget or time in any of the projects I work on to use it. If there was I'd pay someone to do the job anyway.
I've bought SFPro 4 along with the Mega Packs and it should work very nicely with Vegas as with this you can export the music as individual tracks and finesse the mix in Vegas, very neat.
When pressed the SFPro guys admitted that CineScore is a more precise tool that gives a finer level of control over the finished track, once CineScore is available I'll buy it as well.
I just wish both Sony and SonicFire stopped seeing each other as being in competition, SFPro 3 could have been integrated very nicely with Vegas, at least as far as reading markers from a Vegas project, with SFPro 4 there's even more opportunity for integration and I still don't see CineScore competing with SFPro 4. The differences are probably too subtle for the marketing guys to grasp so us users loose out (again).

Bob.