"I've got the Waves Platinum bundle and nothing in there comes close either."

Darn!!

I knew you were going to say that.

yamaha pitch fix VST can do some harmonizing a bit. Another trick is to use a chromatic pitcher and nail it hard and FAST in autotune.

The new way vegas can show pitch shift in the events though should open up some possibilities if you have time

yeah PL, I 've tinkered some with the +/- 8 cents with vegas pitch shift.
realizing that there is a lot of chorusing, and modulation to vary the delay time involved in the "eventide" type effect.

I looked on ebay, and the Eventide 3000's are going for a grand and i'm not really into paying that for what "I see" as a one trick pony. I could be wrong but most outboard efx i've owned only really did one or two things well. For $100 i would by that elusive effect. Lordy, I'm such a tightwad.

you can go further than that.

For harmonizing:

1. Turn on "show active take names in events"

2. Choose " duplicate track" on the track with the event you want or just copy the event to an empty track

3. Click on the copy and hit " + " or "-" on the keyboard, like +3 or what ever

4. Now split the copied event up anywhere that the shift falls out of key

5. Hit + or - on the split pieces until they fall in key. You can see the amount of shift because of "show active take names"

this will be much easier on guitars if you also chose to record a clean track with it so you can see where to split better

For a Eventide 910 broken warble chorus effect. ( back in the day you would set the 910 to just in between 99 and 100 so it would warble and bob around.)

1. Duplicate the track twice

2. Move the first copy later about 12 ms or so, and pan it left (double the move time for an obvious Ozzy effect)

3. Move the second copy forward around 25 ms and pan it right (double the move time for an obvious Ozzy effect)

4. Use the event pitch to knock one track up around 15-20 cents and the other track down 15 or 20 cents

5. Adjust the faders to taste

Peter,

In Steinberg GRM Tools 1(VST plugin pack) is a really good Harmonizer.
PitchAccum, this harmonizer fx is coming close to the eventide harmonizer fx.
Try it .....maybe you like it just like me....fantastic plugin!!

Best regards,
Dide

I often work with a collaborator who has 2 Eventides in his studio (he's been using these for years and can get very deep into the parameters). I'm consistently blown away by what he can do with these things. They can go wayyy beyond pitch shifting and harmonizing and the verbs sound incredible as well – quite different than either the Lexicons or TC's. I'm pretty skeptical that a plug in can compare to what I've witnessed and heard from these units.

drbam

My problem is..at 51 I don't have a lot of time to "delve deep" into much of anything. Plug & play is very attractive to me...with a few small tweaks to adjust to taste.

That is much of what I love about vegas, the simplicity. Oh yeah, I have to spend hours figuring out why this (input monitor) or that (disappearing output device routing) isn't working just right, but as the plugins go, the presets get you right in the ballpark.

You probably all think I'm just being lazy, but I'm not, just wait till you're older, more tired, and have way more to do that you can possibly complete in your life. Then I invite you to come and flame me.
Pete

>>You probably all think I'm just being lazy, but I'm not, just wait till you're older, more tired, and have way more to do that you can possibly complete in your life. Then I invite you to come and flame me.
Pete <<

If you're not wanting to "delve deep" then an Eventide isn't for you. In fact, high end hardware manufacturers assume the user is fairly savy and will *want* to dig into the parameters. Its the *only* way to create something unique. And I agree with you about Vegas' simplicity and intuitive and powerful UI. Frankly its the primary reason I'm still using it because it certainly is lacking some primary features (midi, rewire, VSTi, etc)

And BTW, I'm 59 and my collaborator is about to turn 50 so age isn't the issue - attitude, commitment and perseverence are the overriding factors for me as I attempt to balance 3 careers: psychologist, professor and music production. My life is busy and full but I wouldn't have it any other way. ;-)

drbam