Sony XDCAM Viewer plays mxf upside down?

craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 5:25 AM
Just installed the Sony XDCAM Viewer to play mxf files (was using VLC Media Player).

I convert the BPAV folders from my EX1 to mxf using the Sony Clip Browser and the resulting mxf files play upside down in the Viewer. No way that I can see to rotate them. They appear fine when imported into Vegas 8.

Anyone run into this?

Thanks,

John

EDIT: Sorry for the title typo. No way to correct it on front page.

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Jay Gladwell wrote on 3/28/2011, 5:41 AM

Unable to help you, John. I haven't run into that problem. Sorry!

rs170a wrote on 3/28/2011, 5:45 AM
Works as expected with the footage from my JVC HM700.
I'm using version 2.00

Mike
megabit wrote on 3/28/2011, 5:46 AM
Hi John,

I cannot confirm your findings - have been using the Sony mxf viewer for a long time (as an alternative to VLC), and it's by far the best player for my EX1/nanoFlash clips. One of its virtues is the dreaded 25p "judder" is minimized.

I wonder which version are you using?

Piotr

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craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 5:55 AM
Thanks for the replies.

I am using the latest version, version 2.30

EDIT: I notice this behavior when I play mxf files that have been converted with the Clip Browser software (version 2.6) before importing into Vegas 8. I just tried rendering a loop of said files to mxf using Sony Vegas and the resulting mxf file plays normally in the XDCAM viewer.

John
Dave_OnSet wrote on 3/28/2011, 6:36 AM
I've had v2.30 on my computer(s) for a long time and heve never seen this either. Have been using Clip Browser to make MXFs as well, and they all play properly.

One thing to check -- if you open XDcam Viewer directly (not with any media, just empty) I believe it comes with a 2 second XDCAM logo that will play (if you hit Play). See if this plays properly (or if this is upside down as well.)

Also, have you selected to use an alternate renderer under 'options' ?
craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 7:00 AM
Thanks Dave,

if you open XDcam Viewer directly (not with any media, just empty) I believe it comes with a 2 second XDCAM logo that will play (if you hit Play). See if this plays properly (or if this is upside down as well.)

Plays normally

Also, have you selected to use an alternate renderer under 'options' ?

Tried it. No difference.

John

I am running Direct X 9.0c on the laptop I am trying this on. Wonder if it requires a newer version? The mxf files don't play upside down in VLC media player.

Just checked the requirements. Says Direct X 9.0c is OK. I have Windows XP Pro SP3. That's OK too.
craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 7:52 AM
Just recorded 1 minute of video with EX1 on a Sony SxS card. Inserted card into laptop. Convert to mxf with Clip Browser version 2.6.

Results: Plays upside down in Sony XDCAM Viewer.

John
craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 8:26 AM
Update:

I uninstalled version 2.30 of the Sony XDCAM Viewer and installed version 2.20 (previous version).

Plays right side up. No problems.

Must be a bug in the new version. The previous versions say (optical) in parenthesis) next to the downloads. The newest version (2.30) does not. I have no idea what (optical) means with a software download version. Must be Sony speak.

Thanks for the help (as always)

John
Jay Gladwell wrote on 3/28/2011, 9:30 AM

How are using Clip Browser?

craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 9:42 AM
How are using Clip Browser?
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Right click on thumbnail
Export
MXF for NLEs

John
Jay Gladwell wrote on 3/28/2011, 1:01 PM

I'm at a loss...

craftech wrote on 3/28/2011, 2:47 PM
I appreciate the thoughts Jay.

Not sure. Possibly a bug in version 2.30 since version 2.20 works just fine on my laptop. Maybe they got it to work in Windows 7 or maybe 64-bit systems with the new version and XP Pro SP3 has a problem. Or maybe my version of Clip Browser.
Or maybe it is something I have on my laptop. Either way version 2.20 plays .mxf files better than VLC media player so I am happy.

Thanks again,

John