Sorry - More Blu-Ray Questions

rjm1717 wrote on 2/28/2008, 12:30 PM
OK...I am finally ready to buy a Blu-ray burner. It looks like prices are coming down. Any recommendations? Anything I should avoid? Are the 4x burners the fastest available?

Also, I was lucky enough to receive a Sony BDP-S300 Blu-Ray player recently...sort of a gift. It plays well after I downloaded and installed the latest drivers from Sony. The issue is that it will not play BD-R discs. Is there a place to research which players will play which discs? Is there a way to use the "Burn Disc' function in Vegas Pro 8 to make discs that will work on this player?

Lots of questions I know. Thanks, in advance, for any help.

Comments

Jeff9329 wrote on 2/28/2008, 6:07 PM
The current best available burner is the LG GGW-H20L 6X internal super multi BLU-RAY disc Rewiter & HD DVD-ROM drive.

Here is a link to the current lowest available price.


http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=AA72582
john-beale wrote on 2/28/2008, 7:10 PM
According to the below list, the BDP-S300 should work although I think it depends which firmware you have.

Blu-Ray player compatibility list

Player
Playstation 3 (1.6 + DVDit patch) ------- BD-R, BD-RE
Sony BDP-S1 (1.55) ------- BD-R, BD-RE, DVD-R (when AACS folder is removed)
Sony BDP-S300 (3.2) -------BD-R, BD-RE
Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 ------- BD-R, BD-RE
Samsung BD-P 1000 (1.0 firmware) ------- BD-R, BD-RE
Samsung BD-P 1200 ------- BD-R (mixed results - could be certain media works)
Samsung BD-P 1400 -------BD-R, BD-RE
Panasonic DMP-BD10 (A) ------- BD-R, BD-RE, DVD-R
Philips BDP9000 ------- unknown
LG BH-100 ------- no
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list above is taken from
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?s=e521bff76546d4e446a644e1eacc1b40&showtopic=20850
DJPadre wrote on 2/28/2008, 10:42 PM
that LG does both HD DVD and BD...

looks interesting.. dunno botu this lightscribe crap though.. wow factor rubbish IMO

shoudl have kept the price lower by leaving that rubbish out
Terje wrote on 2/29/2008, 10:55 AM
Lightscribe not really rubbish - I use for my own stuff (but not for stuff I give away, then I use the printer). Doesn't use ink and works well (with the firmware upgrade). Also, it seems unlikely it adds noticeably to the price of the drive.
4eyes wrote on 2/29/2008, 6:15 PM
Since Blu-Ray Media is still expensive when I do get a burner probably will be a Plextor.

Plextor PX-B920SA
John_Cline wrote on 2/29/2008, 7:50 PM
The Plextor PX-B900A and the Sony BWU-100 are both rebadged Panasonic SW-5582 2x IDE drives. The Sony BWU-200 is a rebadged Panasonic SW-5583 4x SATA drive. There are perhaps some minor firmware differences, but all these drives are made by Panasonic. The Plextor PX-B920SA looks like it may be a rebadged LG GGW-H20L drive, but I'm not certain.

John

Also, the least expensive source for Blu-Ray discs that I have found is www.tapeandmedia.com
jday wrote on 2/29/2008, 9:16 PM
This might be slightly off-topic but it is another issue with moving to Blu-ray. Granted, most people (meaning customers) are still looking for SD, but for those who do want HD, as far as I know there aren't any printable blu-ray discs (or even lightscribe, even though I don't care for them) which leave you with stick-on labels. If anyone knows of any printable blu-ray media please let me know.
John_Cline wrote on 2/29/2008, 9:41 PM
Click on the tapeandmedia.com link in my message above. They carry inkjet printable Blu-Ray media.
jday wrote on 3/1/2008, 6:04 AM
Thanks JC. I couldn't find any on the sites I usually purchase my discs from. Now, TY just needs to make some watershield blu-ray discs.
DGates wrote on 3/2/2008, 4:16 AM
Terje, you left off the part about each disc taking up to 30 minutes to 'label' in Lightscribe (for full disc art at the highest quality setting). Sorry, but that is rubbish.
blink3times wrote on 3/2/2008, 6:44 AM
I tried lightscribe for about a day..... that was enough for me thank you very much.
blink3times wrote on 3/2/2008, 6:49 AM
as far as I know there aren't any printable blu-ray discs

Yes there is. Too lazy to look for a link, but I have seen it on one of the media sites that I visit.
JJKizak wrote on 3/2/2008, 6:49 AM
I couldn't figure out how they got lightscribe to take so long and provide such poor performance. John Cline provided the link to hub printable bluray discs.
JJK
Terje wrote on 3/2/2008, 7:04 AM
Terje, you left off the part about each disc taking up to 30 minutes to 'label' in Lightscribe

I didn't leave anything out, I just pointed out the fact that Lightscribe, in some situations, suits me very well. I understand it doesn't suit you, and that is fine, but that doesn't mean it "is rubbish", it only means you don't like it. You may have really good reasons for not liking it, but since the cost of adding the capability to a drive is close to zero, being pissed when it is added is absurd. If you don't like the feature you are free not to use it, nobody is going to force you.

As for the 30 minutes, I couldn't give a rats ass about how long it takes. When I use it now and then I use it for single disks, and I only label them when I do not have any plans to use the burner for a while. In other words I don't care what amount of time it takes as long as it is done before I need the drive again, which may be several days later, but usually at least 12 hours.
blink3times wrote on 3/2/2008, 7:10 AM
I understand it doesn't suit you, and that is fine, but that doesn't mean it "is rubbish"

I would agree with that.... to each their own.
Rob-Candlelght Prductions wrote on 3/2/2008, 9:20 PM
When he wrote "rubbish", of *course* he's stating his opinion.. no need for anyone to take things personally here ;-)

I'm curious though -- even if you say you do the Lightscribe during machine "downtime", aren't you concerned that using the laser for 30 minutes straight to burn on the visual image is depleating the life of your unit (which you presumably purchased for content burning)?

FWIW, I tried it for a day too and wasn't impressed with either the readability of the resulting burn, or time to burn. For stuff that I want to keep for myself as "archive" (e.g. no intent to impress anyone with it) I find the good ol' CD-marker extremely effective -- convenient, cheap and 64x

:-) Rob
Terje wrote on 3/2/2008, 9:56 PM
I'm curious though -- even if you say you do the Lightscribe during machine "downtime", aren't you concerned that using the laser for 30 minutes straight to burn on the visual image is depleating the life of your unit

Not at all. I only use my drive for personal and family stuff, so the amount of burning I do is very low. I upgrade my hardware too often to run into a situation where the drive is going to be "burned out". My current drive, for example, will be upgraded to a Blu-Ray drive this week. That drive is going to be a slow drive in about 18 months, so I am probably going to upgrade again. Won't burn enough in 18 months to kill the drive.

Now, I am more concerned about my media than about my drive, that's where I have my data. I don't want to write on my disk with permanent (even CD) markers. Maybe I am just paranoid :-)
Larry Clifford wrote on 3/3/2008, 7:28 AM
Rob-Candlelight Productions

You made the statement "I find the good ol' CD-marker extremely effective -- convenient, cheap and 64x."

I was told some time back (maybe 1 year ago) not to use CD markers because they will leach into the data and make it unreadable. Have you, or anyone else, had problems with this after a period of time? I don't have any idea how long that time frame would be.

Therefore, I use only a paper label stuffed in a paper holder.

Any comments would be appreciated. Thank you.

Larry