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Julius_911 wrote on 4/1/2004, 12:10 PM
Nothing? Have I stumpt the club????
Jsnkc wrote on 4/1/2004, 12:12 PM
Just a thought, maybe re-install vegas to see if it finds that you have the codec installed on your system and allows you to use it within Vegas.
Former user wrote on 4/1/2004, 12:19 PM
Looks like it creates a DIVX codec. Is this the software you are talking about? It is for ripping DVDs.

Dave T2
Julius_911 wrote on 4/2/2004, 7:21 AM
Yes it is.
It's my own DVD that I gave to a wedding couple and 8 months later they find out that there is a spelling mistake.
Since my only copy is the DVD, I was very successful in ripping out my own work into AVI with perfect audio sync with this software in AVI.

My only last step was to bring it into Vegas as AVI for the stupid spelling mistake.

Re-intsalling scares me a little, but if there is no other choice...

In case your interested in the product, here's what people are saying about it:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=211607

It uses XVID and divx.



Thanks!!!
Former user wrote on 4/2/2004, 7:26 AM
The files on your DVD are MPEG2. No need to convert to another codec. You are just adding another step in the quality process.

Dave T2
Julius_911 wrote on 4/2/2004, 9:18 AM
I tried to copy the VOB files to my hard drive, then rename to mpg extension so that I can bring it into vegas, but I was told that you shouldn't edit with mpeg-2 files (even if it's just a small text change).

I am wrong on that point?

If so and I am able to make the changes, won't recoding it with DVDA-NTSC Arct. create me quality loss?

(Thanks so much for your input)
Former user wrote on 4/2/2004, 9:23 AM
At this point, the files are already encoded as an MPEG. Using your method you are taking an MPEG (lossy format) to DIVX (another lossy format) and then to recreate the DVD, another MPEG (more loss).

If you edit the VOB files, then you are only re-rencoding once (back to MPEG for the DVD).

The "don't edit MPEG' idea is if you have a choice between MPEG and AVI. In this case, your choice is between MPEG and another format. I would edit the original mpegs.

Dave T2
Julius_911 wrote on 4/2/2004, 9:52 AM
Thanks Dave for the very informative feedback. This is great news , isn't?

Once I finish my little error in Vegas, how do I re-render the file so my changes take place?

(DVD NTSC template with mpeg-2 encoding???).

What I'm really saying is "how can I be sure it won't re-render" (what do I do).

Thanks again.

Chienworks wrote on 4/2/2004, 10:39 AM
If you're using Vegas, you will rerender the entire file. There's nothing you can do to avoid that.

As an alternative, you could create a new MPEG-2 file that contains only the section you've fixed, then use something like TMPGenc or Womble to splice the original part before the fix, the new fixed part, and then the rest of the original after the fix together into a new file. The only part that will be rerendered is what you had to fix. You may have some difficulties getting the DVD burning software to accept this file though. Then again, you might not.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 4/2/2004, 10:41 AM
What I'm really saying is "how can I be sure it won't re-render" (what do I do).

You can be ceartain it WILL re-render. That is exactly the way MPEG encoding works. Even if the vast majority of your file remains unchanged it will re-render the whole thing.

I have no idea if this would work.... but I believe products such as VirtualDub and others (TempEng(?) can split Mpeg files and re-combine them. Sounds a bit risky and complicated to me but if it is <really> worth it that may protect the majority of your MPEG video from being re-rendered.

I think this thread has really taught me that you should always recommend a client takes a Mini-DV "print" of the video to allow future editing. Will cost more... but the consequences of not doing it seem worse to me.

I hope you get it figured out.
Chienworks wrote on 4/2/2004, 10:48 AM
Heck, even if the client isn't interested, i still make a miniDV print and keep it myself anyway. For $6 and less than 2 cubic inches (32 cu cm) of space it's a no-brainer for me. The time savings alone of having DV material to work with later on makes up for the $6 cost by several orders of magnitude. The increased quality and speed with which you can produce new versions will make your clients very happy.

If you're not charging enough up front to cover the extra 6 bucks then you should be.You probably paid more than that for gas to get to the wedding and back. Even if you're doing it for free, it's still only an extra $6. Just do it.