Add DVD Architect Studio 4.5 for $50 and you're all set :-)

Mike

dont think vegas is avaiable without dvda....bet it comes with it,,,


edit or maybe not

It doesn't.
If you look at the "Specifications" page, it says
DVD Authoring - None.
Obviously another one of these special B&H "deals".

Mike

This deal has been discussed ad nauseum on the hv20.com forums. People who have purchased confirm it does NOT include DVDA. However, it's still a screaming deal even with the added cost of DVDA Studio to get (stereo only) AC3. Assuming V9+DVDA5 adds Blu-Ray authoring, you'll be able wait a bit and shop around to find a $99 upgrade to that.

I think the more important question is why does SONY allow these BS deals to happen in the first place. They don't sell it seperately themselves and don't offer it to us at these kinds of prices. SONY you are not doing yourself any marketing favors by allowing these kinds of scab deals to totally undermine your normal product sales. Is Sony Creative Software this stupid? You are just pissing off the people who pay the normal price when they see these massive FIRE sales. Is SCS desperate for sales?

BigRockies.com Your Home in the Rockies!

Or since SCS allows users to sell their licenses for older versions of the software, they can buy an old license for DVD A from me if they wish. They can't use that license to upgrade, but that won't matter come Vegas 9, because DVD is integrated and their Vegas license would be sufficient.

"I think the more important question is why does SONY allow these BS deals to happen in the first place. "

I fully agree with that. Sony hurts itself with these cheesy deals. You can't get a full blu ray (avchd disk) production without DVDA (the lack of an ac3 encoder which is housed in dvda) and as a result people sluff Vegas off as a shotty program.

Speaking of great BH deals...

If you want to pick up one of the StackTraxx volumes from Digital Juice, BH has them for a mere $248 ! If you were to purchase directly from DJ, you'd have to pony up a whopping $49.

Buy the standalone from B&H for $130 upgrade for $235 SCS direct for total cost $365 and if you do that right now you'll get
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegasbook?keycode=64083
and
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegasseminarseries?keycode=64083
FOR FREE a $150 value

I'd say the BH deal is pretty darn good. IE my dad already has Vegas 6 & DVDA3, no need to 4.5. If I want extra rendering licenses for Vegas I need to buy a new copy. I get two licenses for ~$130 from BH. If I'm an editing house I can get other comp's up & running w/o spending extra $$ on DVDA that I'll never use.

I can think of lots of good ways to use this cheaper version. 90% of people don't need DVDA. I went with years just using TMPGenc's DVD app. Worked great.

Not everybody needs DVDA. For most, Vegas by itself would more than suffice.

Here.... let me quote some one else: Wow... such anger.

There are people that can help with this you know.

As for dvda... if you knew much about vegas.... and obviously you don't;

1) People don't know that dvda contains the ac3 encoder so they won't know why it's not working.

2) You can't buy the pro dvda version.... only the studio version.


I would finish this off by quoting your last word... but why bother

BlinkyBoy,

When Sony started bundling Vegas and DVDA, there were people complaining that they were being forced to buy DVDA when all the wanted/needed was Vegas. The B&H deal satisfies that group.

Don't assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. Not everybody makes DVDs and has a need to do .AC3 encoding. In fact, I never use DVDA and only rarely do any AC3 encoding or decoding in Vegas. I use Canopus Procoder to do all my MPEG2 video encoding and I author all my DVDs and Blu-Ray discs in Adobe Encore CS3, which has an .AC3 encoder (so does Procoder.) I could easily live without DVDA, but I have it one the off-chance that I ever need it.

Thanks for your opinion Johnboy.

Obviously you have (and use) many different avenues to arrive at your destination. I suppose if the average buyer looking for these kinds of deals had Canopus and Encore, then they too would have no need for DVDA.

When Sony started bundling Vegas and DVDA, there were people complaining that they were being forced to buy DVDA when all the wanted/needed was Vegas. The B&H deal satisfies that group.

Don't assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours. Not everybody makes DVDs and has a need to do .AC3 encoding. In fact, I never use DVDA and only rarely do any AC3 encoding or decoding in Vegas. I use Canopus Procoder to do all my MPEG2 video encoding and I author all my DVDs and Blu-Ray discs in Adobe Encore CS3, which has an .AC3 encoder (so does Procoder.) I could easily live without DVDA, but I have it one the off-chance that I ever need it.
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John,

I wanted to buy Adobe Encore CS3, but I can't find it anywhere as a stand alone. Adobe forces you to buy the entire Adobe Premiere CS3 package for hundreds of dollars just to get Adobe Encore CS3.
Do you know any place that sells it separately? I bought Procoder 3 for a few hundred dollars, but I am using DVDA to author because I don't feel like spending hundreds more for Adobe Premiere just to get Adobe Encore CS3 unless Adobe separates the two and I don't know about it.

John

Correct me if I'm wrong... (sorry... don't know too much about Encore) but it will function COMPLETELY on it's own? I know that there are parts of Vegas that just plain don't work without DVDA (the AC3 export for example).

Correct me if I'm wrong... (sorry... don't know too much about Encore) but it will function COMPLETELY on it's own? I know that there are parts of Vegas that just plain don't work without DVDA (the AC3 export for example).
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You can render an AC3 file from Vegas that will work with other programs.
John

"You can render an AC3 file from Vegas that will work with other programs. "

Nope... not without dvda. That John, is my entire point.... Vegs is somewhat incomplete without DVDA

I don't know about the current version of Vegas, but Versions 6 and before allowed you to use the AC3 encoder with an extra activation number.

Dave T2

Yes... and the price is something like an additional $199. A quote from one of the buyers:




"Got the CD. Some problems:

I have DVDA and don't use it either.

Believe it or not, I'm still using DVDWS2. Does what I need and it's what I'm used to.

I've NEVER used it... but I do a lot of AC3 work which Sony clearly believes is worth $200 (not that I'm arguing) but the raw program for 129, the encoder for 200 and now you're talking $329 plus postage. For $424 (at Videoguys) you can get the whole thing plus a shuttle....AND.... be eligible for the next up grade (which I don't think you are on this BH deal)