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JHendrix wrote on 10/27/2011, 5:19 PM
NewBlue Motion Bundle
US$99.95

i wonder if i can get that deal with the V11 upgrade?
Sunflux wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:17 PM
I just got an email on this.. and yes you can mix the upgrade discount with the NewBlue bundle discount. However I'm not sure about afterwards, ie. if you've already purchased VP11.

Otherwise, for $240 you can get the VP11 upgrade, NB Titler Pro, Motion Effects and Motion Blends. Seems like a good deal... but are the "Motion Effects" and "Motion Blends" plugins actually worth it? The description page has no examples of what they actually do. Maybe I'll have to look around NewBlue's website...
Spectralis wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:20 PM
I had a look but there are no videos of the FX in action so I'm not sure if they're worth buying. Also I already have a lot of New Blue FX so does that mean I have to buy them all over again just so I can use them with the titler? Why can't we use the FX we already have with it?
DataMeister wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:26 PM
First person to splurge and buy it (sight unseen) needs to make us a demonstration video.

Perhaps they are harder to program than I'm imagining, but with only 10 effects per collection and judging purely from the verbal description, they look more like they are worth closer to $49 per set. Meaning they marked them up just so they can mark them down for the special intro.

Sony should experiment with the iPhone App store theory. Sell a single plugin effect for $0.99 each and maybe sell 50,000 copies of 2 or 3 of them instead of $100 for a collection and probably only selling 1,000 copies. (I'm guessing at numbers here because I have no idea what size the Vegas user base is.)

Maybe the effects are a lot more impressive than they read.
xberk wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:33 PM
but are the "Motion Effects" and "Motion Blends" plugins actually worth it?

I was wondering the same thing .. you can see what they do here:

Motion Blends and Motion Effects

Considering it's like $50 for each set .. might be worthwhile.

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DataMeister wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:41 PM
Ok. The earthquake effect is pretty convincing.
Spectralis wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:45 PM
Some of the effects are ok but not anything I can't do with other plugins I own. If I buy them are they only for use in the titler? I guess I'm a bit confused about whether blends and other effects can only be done to text within the titler using these new plugins or if other plugins can also be used.

If NB titler is a closed system that only works with their own new plugins then I wish Sony had updated their own titler that can be used with any suitable plugin.
Sunflux wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:50 PM
It says they "can" be used in the titler... not that they have to be. The only requirement for the Sony version seems to be VP8.1 64-bit or higher.
Spectralis wrote on 10/27/2011, 6:57 PM
Could that mean that they might update all their FX so they can be used in the titler? I already own quite a few of their bundles.
Red Prince wrote on 10/27/2011, 10:32 PM
However I'm not sure about afterwards, ie. if you've already purchased VP11.

Yes, you can. I got an email with the same offer. And I went for it and bought the bundle.

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Red Prince wrote on 10/27/2011, 10:51 PM
If I buy them are they only for use in the titler?

No, you get the traditional Vegas plug-ins (for older versions of Vegas), OFX plug-ins (for Vegas 10 and 11), plus separate plug-ins to work with the Titler Pro. Both, 32- and 64-bit. Plus it offered to install plug-ins for other software, such as Premiere (IIRC), but I only installed the OFX and the Titler versions since Vegas is the only NLE I use.

BTW, you can download a trial version directly from the NewBlue web site, so you can try before you buy. That is what I did and liked it so much I went on and bought the bundle. I uninstalled the trial version before installing it because the trial was 2.4, while the version Sony let me download was 3.0.

These are nice effects with many options and many presets for each.

As for using the NB Titler with non-NB effects, there is nothing preventing you from adding more effects to the effect chain after the Titler. The only difference is that you can apply NB effects directly from within the Titler, while you need to apply other effects separately in the Vegas effects chain. So, at least theoretically, applying the NB effects from within the Titler should make it render somewhat faster because one plug-in does it all.

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Spectralis wrote on 10/28/2011, 3:10 AM
Thanks Red Prince that's a very clear explanation. I'll download the trial as you suggested.
travtek wrote on 10/28/2011, 5:32 AM
Also check out NewBlue FX youTube channel. They actually expand on the uses of motion blends for example. I purchased it last year when it unveiled and thinks it's still worth that price. Hope this helps.
Red Prince wrote on 10/28/2011, 8:27 AM
You’re quite welcome, Spectralis.

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JHendrix wrote on 10/28/2011, 8:37 AM
has anyone seen performance problems or crashes using any of the nu blue fx?
jetdv wrote on 10/28/2011, 10:40 AM
These are an update to the regular Motion Blends and Motion Effects products found on newbluefx.com. These versions certainly work as standard effects and transitions in Vegas Pro 11 just as they did in previous versions of Vegas. However, they also have an option to install into Titler and can be used directly by Titler as well.

Someone mentioned they only work in 64-bit Vegas - that is not true. They also work in the 32-bit versions of Vegas.
Spectralis wrote on 10/28/2011, 1:09 PM
Based on the facility to load these plugins into either Vegas or the titler should I assume that this will be extended to their other effects in a forthcoming update? The reason I ask is that I own Video Essentials I-IV and such an update would be great.
jetdv wrote on 10/28/2011, 2:31 PM
Yes, all of the products will be updated so they can also install into Titler Pro.
Laurence wrote on 10/28/2011, 2:49 PM
I just ordered them. I can't imagine using these types of effects on video, but on titles, they will look very cool!
Spectralis wrote on 10/28/2011, 3:06 PM
That's great news. I'm still not clear about the advantages of loading them into the titler as opposed to using them on the clip or track.
jetdv wrote on 10/29/2011, 8:37 AM
Laurence, have you ever watched a movie that had an earthquake? You can bet something like Motion Effects was used to create the movement. Or a dream sequence with the wavy edges? Similarly, the transitions can create some very interesting results.
Spectralis wrote on 10/29/2011, 11:22 PM
I can see the advantages of these plugins but I'm still not sure what the advantage is in having them integrated in the titler as opposed to using them on a track or clip as normal.
Red Prince wrote on 10/30/2011, 11:34 AM
I'm still not sure what the advantage is in having them integrated in the titler

The advantage is that you can apply them to some of the text and to the rest of the text. You can even apply different effects to different portions of the text. If you wanted to achieve the same with track or clip or event effects, you’d need a separate track for each portion of the text that has a different effect applied to.

Now, what would be really nice would be if the Titler could apply any OFX effect we have installed, not just the NewBlueFX plug-ins.

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Spectralis wrote on 11/1/2011, 1:02 AM
You've convinced me and I've bought them. The discount was too hard to resist. The integration with the titler is really useful and it seems to work well with Vegas Pro 11 so far. I also hope they allow other FX to integrate.