Split Screen

Reach wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:09 AM
Hello,

I know for split screan you use event pan/corp, and make the window size bigger then the image... now.. I have it split screened.. And i have 2 video layers...

1st For main layer (all the video)
2nd Just for the split screen part..

How do I make it so the 2nd video layer comes infront of the first..

I have the videos overlap, and I want one to go ahead of the other.. but its opposite..

As in the wrong one is overlapping..

Any help with this would be excelent, thank you =)

Ryan C

Comments

jetdv wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:27 AM
Move your second track to the top (make it the first track)
Reach wrote on 3/24/2004, 8:29 AM
Ok =)

Is there any way I can make the bottom one come in the front?

Becuase I want to show the top one for a second or two, and the switch the overlap, so the bottom one shows..

It's the same clip but from 2 different angles...

At the one angle, after the time, it becomes obsolite, that is why I want to switch it to the other one.. =)

If there is any way to switch them, that rocks, if not, ill just work with it =) thanks.
jetdv wrote on 3/24/2004, 9:12 AM
I don't understand the problem. If there's nothing on track 1, track 2 will show. You don't put the clip on track 1 UNTIL you want it to show. They you place it properly split. When you want that clip to go away, track 1 becomes empty again allowing track 2 to totally show once again.
jetdv wrote on 3/24/2004, 9:16 AM
Is there any way I can make the bottom one come in the front?

Yes, move it ON TOP.
cyanide149 wrote on 3/24/2004, 9:51 AM
Ed: Don't blow a fuse ;). If a few of these "noobies" would just spend a couple of minutes reading the manual, following a tutorial, whatever. I think we're making it to easy for them. What he is asking is one of the most elementary operations for ANY nle. Let him figure it out himself. Just like we had to.
Maverick wrote on 3/25/2004, 11:25 AM
What I would probably do (and this may not be the best method but has worked for me) is place the event on trach one on track three, too. Then just make track one opaque so that track 2 is the one on top and three is then behind.

HTH
jetdv wrote on 3/25/2004, 12:59 PM
What I would probably do (and this may not be the best method but has worked for me) is place the event on trach one on track three, too. Then just make track one opaque so that track 2 is the one on top and three is then behind.

Why???? Why not just do what I said and, in your scenario, eliminate track 1? It's redundant to track 3. Totally unnecessary.
Maverick wrote on 3/25/2004, 1:17 PM
Thinking about it your way seems best:-)
sdorshan wrote on 3/25/2004, 2:01 PM
It sounds like you want your inset to appear and disappear. As with many things in Vegas, there is more than one way to do this.

First of all, do the inset with track motion, not pan/crop. Then you can keyframe it with a Hold on the keyframe, so that at a certain point in time, you can move it completely off screen. Use copy and paste on the keyframes so that it returns to the same position later.

The other way to make the inset go away is to use a composite level envelope, and drop it to zero when you don't want to see the inset.

In fact, while figuring this out, I realized that this is the perfect way to do multicamera cuts or dissolves without actually splitting the clips. Just use the composite level to select the visible track and to dissolve back and forth between tracks. It's better than an A/B roll because the events don't have to be split up. You are limited to cuts and dissolves, though.
jetdv wrote on 3/25/2004, 2:10 PM
You are limited to cuts and dissolves, though.

Why???

Take a look at my newsletter where I discuss this technique for Multi-Cam (along with others). There's no reason dissolves can't happen.
sdorshan wrote on 3/25/2004, 7:04 PM
That's why I said "cuts *and* dissolves.

If the envelope goes vertical, it is a cut. If it is slanted, it is a dissolve.

I was trying to say that you can't get a transition to happen in the middle of an event, although you can keyframe various effects at the dissolve point to create some interesting transition-like looks, some more interesting than the real transitions.
jetdv wrote on 3/25/2004, 7:16 PM
Oops.... read "cuts only" in my head.
Caruso wrote on 4/24/2004, 4:38 PM
Personally, Cyanide, I take exception to your negative comment. What's an elementary operation (in any NLE) to you may be totally foreign to someone else, newbie or not.

I've spent the better part of an hour searching my help file and this forum for the proper way to get the split screen effect I'm after.

Thought I found the solution on one of the posts, but, I must have missed something.

So, I'm still searching, still checking the manual and help files, still posting questions, some of which may seem annoying to you because you already know the answer.

Most of what I've learned about Vegas (VV2,3,V4,5) I probably learned just as you did, by opening the damned ap, playing with it, reviewing the manual each time I came to a task that I needed help with, and, most important in all of my learning, asking question here on this excellent forum.

Some of my questions, if I do say so myself, were quite justified, but, most were easily (and graciously) answered by someone more knowledgeable than I.

I still jump in and answer most any question that needs answering if I know the correct answer, no matter how "elementary" it may seem. We were all there once - and we all learned at different paces and in different ways - some by reading the manual, some intuitively, many by asking questions.

Sorry to vent, but you struck a nerve.

Caruso
jetdv wrote on 4/24/2004, 7:55 PM
Caruso, I suspect the step you missed was to click on the parent/child relationship arrow to the left of the track header on track 2.

In Vegas 5, there's an interesting new way to do split-screen. Simply overlap the clips, apply a wipe transition, put a transition envelope on the transition, and then hold it at 50%.
jdas wrote on 4/24/2004, 8:32 PM
Thanks Curuso ! What is elementary to some may indeed be complicated and even impossible to understand for others,especially beginners. . What makes this forum so great is people like Curuso and others, who are willing to extend a helping hand to new users even if the questions posted seem so basic. In time to come, these new users would have had overcome the initial hurdles and would pass on their knowledge to other newbies.

To those who are offended by basic questions, I say, just don't bother to post your negative comments. Just a waste of space !
Nat wrote on 4/24/2004, 10:00 PM
There are so much ways in Vegas 5 to do a split screen... Bezier curves can also do the job...