Stop Button Does Not Return to Main Menu

BobbyMurcerFan wrote on 8/31/2008, 5:08 PM
In DVD Architect, I can't figure out how to get a DVD to automatically go back to the main menu when Stop is pressed on the remote. When I press Stop, I am sent to a generic blue screen. If then press Pause, I return to the main menu.

I have End Actions for each of the menu buttons, and they work at going back to the main menu, but only when their media stop playing. Their End Actions are not activated when I press the remote's Stop button before the media finishes play.

This behavior happens both in Preview mode and with burned discs.

THANKS SO MUCH for any help!

Comments

Zulqar-Cheema wrote on 9/1/2008, 10:41 AM
the stop button always STOPS the video and goes to a dead screen, you need to press the menu button to get to the menu, then if you press play again it normally carries on where it stopped.

Don't know why you would think it was logical to go back to the menu
BobbyMurcerFan wrote on 9/1/2008, 11:58 AM
Thank you very much for your help, but I am still getting some very odd behavior: :(

If I press Menu after pressing Stop, nothing happens. The only way to get back to the Main Menu after pressing stop is to press Pause. But if I press Menu during playback, I am sent to the menu.

And when I am at the Main Menu, the Play button does not work, a small circle with a line through appears in the upper right corner.

However, clicking on a Main Menu item will cause it to play. And the remote's Up, Down, Left, Right buttons all work as they should.

I haven't disabled any buttons in Remote Buttons, so I don't understand why I'm getting this odd behavior.

Thanks very much for all your help.
johnmeyer wrote on 9/1/2008, 5:16 PM
What you are trying to do is totally dependent on the DVD player, and not on how the disc is authored.

Most, but not all, DVD players go into a "resume" mode when you press the stop button once. The screen goes blank and the disc spins down. When you press play, the DVD resumes playing at exactly the place you stopped when you pressed stop. For DVD players that behave this way (and again, just to emphasize, this is totally up to the DVD player, and you cannot control it with how you create your disc), this gives you the same thing as the pause button except that the disc spins down, and you don't have a picture on the screen.

In most DVD players, if you press the stop button a second time, then the player resets. If you then press the play button, you should (although it's up to the player ...) you should get the same behavior as when you initially inserted the disc. I take it from your initial post that this initial behavior takes you to a main menu of some sort.

So, this is not a defect in DVD Architect -- or in any other authoring software -- but is how most DVD players work.

BobbyMurcerFan wrote on 9/2/2008, 4:06 AM
John, but this behavoir also happens in Preview mode of DVD Architect itself, so it can't just be the DVD player.

For example, in Preview mode of DVDA 5.0 if I press Stop, I'm brought to a generic blue screen. But pressing Menu does nothing. I have to press Pause to return to the main menu.

This makes no sense to me. It's not just my particular DVD player, it's how DVD Architect is understanding the project and my inability to get it to do what I want.

THANKS VERY MUCH for your help!
Amateursg wrote on 9/3/2008, 11:09 AM
I encountered the same problem that the 'Menu' button does not work after pressing 'Stop' in the Preview. The same goes with the DVD that I cut as the 'Menu' does not work after pressing 'Stop' when I played on my DVD Hard Disk Recorder. I had to press 'DVD' on my DVD Hard Disk Recorder before the main menu comes back again.

I can accept that the 'Stop' button returns a blue screen in Preview and a blank screen when played in a DVD drive. I cannot accept that the 'Menu' button does not do anything.

Maybe I am not familiar with the DVD Architect. I hope someone in the forum can help.
nolonemo wrote on 9/3/2008, 12:40 PM
It sounds to me like the DVDA preview is mimicing the way a standalone player will interpret the button presses. That is exactly what you want the preview to do. If the preview didn't accurately simulate how things will act on an actual player it would be totally useless.

It may be that you simply can't do want you want within the DVD spec.
musicvid10 wrote on 9/3/2008, 5:00 PM
**I can accept that the 'Stop' button returns a blue screen in Preview and a blank screen when played in a DVD drive. I cannot accept that the 'Menu' button does not do anything.**

MANY remotes will not take you back to the Root Menu after pressing the Stop button and then the Menu button, including both of my set-top units. It is not possible for the remote in DVDA Preview to react "exactly" like the one you are used to, since there are MANY, MANY variations among manufacturers.

In the DVDA Preview, pressing Stop takes you to a generic screen. Pressing Play takes you back to the Menu. It's that simple.
darkframe wrote on 9/5/2008, 12:52 AM
Hi,

in addition to musicvid I'd even say that almost NO player will take you to any menu after you've hit the stop button.

Technically spoken, hitting "Stop" causes the player to enter the so-called "Stop domain". It is totally up to the manufacturer whether that will cause the player to display e.g. a Jacket picture, a message or whatsoever. Anyhow, as far as programmed DVD content is concerned, the Stop domain is kind of an undefined state. In most cases hardware players will resume playback when hitting Play again and completely switch back to the initial state in case Stop is being hit again as some have stated already.

Cheers

darkframe
bStro wrote on 9/5/2008, 11:03 AM
John, but this behavoir also happens in Preview mode of DVD Architect itself, so it can't just be the DVD player.

Why shoudln't it? DVDA's preview mode is meant to emulate a DVD player. Therefor, Sony programmed it to behave as a standard DVD player does.

The rub is that DVD player manufacturers do not all program their players exactly the same way -- some will program "Stop" to quit the disc and "remember" where the viewer was when they pressed stop. Other manufacturers will program "Stop" to quit the disc but "forget" where the viewer was when they pressed stop, so restarting the disc will go back to the beginning. The manfacturer is also the one who decides what button will be used to resume the disc (usually Play or Menu).

my inability to get it to do what I want.

What you want is not the normal behavior for a DVD. It's not in the DVD specs, and I have never in my life used a DVD player that returned to a menu when I pressed "Stop." Stop means Stop.

Rob