Strange ripple edit behavior (adding transition times)

JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/15/2003, 8:33 AM
I really like the new version of ripple edit in Vegas 4 and started using it again (I just kept it off in Vegas 3) but I’ve noticed a strange behavior and I’m wondering if this is how it should be. I’m doing a photomontage but the behavior is the same even if you’re using video clips. What I want to be able to do is decide the piece is too long and delete some pictures from the timeline and have the timeline automatically fill in the gaps. This a typical use for ripple edit but here is the strange behavior that makes it not work as expected:

With ripple edit on and cut-to-overlap set at one second: Drag and drop three images onto the timeline. You should now see three events that are overlapped by a one second crossfade. Select the middle event and hit the delete key. I would now expect to see the right side event shift over (which I do) and be left with two events that are overlapped by a one second crossfade. Not so! I now have two events that are overlapped by a two second crossfade!!! (and I have to move one back to the right to get a one second crossfade back).

So what’s happening is that the transition times are being added together. This kind of defeats the purpose of ripple edit because I have to manually adjust the events and I can’t think of a single instance when I would want the transitions times to be added together when I delete an event. Is this the expected behavior cuz’ it’s not what I expected.

I would have expected Vegas to use the same duration as the transition that it selected to keep. If the left transition is a Push and the right is a Page Peel and I delete the middle clip, the remaining transition is whatever the transition at the end of the deleted clip was, which in this example was the Page Peel. I would also expect it to maintain the duration of that Page Peel. What do you guys think?

~jr

Comments

craftech wrote on 6/15/2003, 8:35 AM
Turn off "automatic crossfades"

John
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/15/2003, 8:40 AM
Which automatic crossfades do you mean? The one in Options->Preference->Editing then click Automatically overlap multiple selected media when added has no effect on this. It only affects when the media is first dropped on the timeline. Which option in what menu should I turn off?

~jr
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/17/2003, 12:29 PM
You were right. I was turning off automatic crossfade in the options menu but if I just press the automatic crossfades button on the toolbar I don't get the two second fade. I now get a one second fade BUT it still positions the events wrong. If I delete a 6 second event, it ripples the other events over 7 seconds! This doesn't seem right.

Can someone from Sonic Foundry acknowledge that this is the intended behavior and not a “moth stuck in the relay”. ;-)

~jr