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Jack S wrote on 8/10/2019, 4:42 AM

Are you using the legacy stabiliser (VEGAS Stabilize) or the new stabiliser (VEGAS Video Stabilisation)?

I use the latter all the time (my hands aren't as steady as they used to be) for pans ('Smooth motion' mode) and static shots ('Freeze motion' mode) and I get perfect results. I don't bother with any of the other settings except the 'Smoothing' and 'Reference Frame Number' sliders, which I use to tweak the results.

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Marco. wrote on 8/10/2019, 4:44 AM

@Ruby888
Try disabling resampling and set RAM preview to 0.

Ruby888 wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:30 AM

@Ruby888
Try disabling resampling and set RAM preview to 0.


Disabling resampling worked, but it crashes Vegas, but when I open it up and it restores the project, I render it and its perfect. Don't know why Vegas is so unstable with the new stabilization tool, the image is way more stable than 16, but the program is very unstable.

Marco. wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:35 AM

Vegas Pro 17 crashes if you disable resampling?

Ruby888 wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:40 AM

Vegas Pro 17 crashes if you disable resampling?

It was unstable before during image stabilization but now it crashes.

Marco. wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:44 AM

Tried disabling GPU acceleration in Options/Preferences/Video?

Ruby888 wrote on 8/10/2019, 11:57 AM

Tried disabling GPU acceleration in Options/Preferences/Video?


Just tried it, stabilization was fine but when I went to preview I got Vegas Not Responding.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/10/2019, 2:23 PM

I am doing my lake district holiday, sony XAVC about 1000 clips. I am doing it in sections of about 50 clips (each days video). So far the only crashes I have had relate to a few (about 4) clips when using the legacy stabilizer (my favourite for clips with slight rotation). This has happened since Sony Vegas 13 so its related to the stabilizer not vegas. The new stabilizer has not crashed. I am using the new colour grading system and levels filter with no issues. V17 seems very stable on my system (i5, 12GB ram, samsung ssd, Nvidiab GTX 1080TI). Also i compared the use of GPU (timeline playback) with Vegas, Davinci Reolve and Power Director and all three only use GPU at 11% so essentially the same with XAVC.

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(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Ruby888 wrote on 8/10/2019, 4:25 PM

I am doing my lake district holiday, sony XAVC about 1000 clips. I am doing it in sections of about 50 clips (each days video). So far the only crashes I have had relate to a few (about 4) clips when using the legacy stabilizer (my favourite for clips with slight rotation). This has happened since Sony Vegas 13 so its related to the stabilizer not vegas. The new stabilizer has not crashed. I am using the new colour grading system and levels filter with no issues. V17 seems very stable on my system (i5, 12GB ram, samsung ssd, Nvidiab GTX 1080TI). Also i compared the use of GPU (timeline playback) with Vegas, Davinci Reolve and Power Director and all three only use GPU at 11% so essentially the same with XAVC.

I can't figure out why people think I would use the old stabilizer. Its turned OFF by default, so I am using the new one. My program is very unstable using it. I can use Vegas 16 no problems with stabilization. 17 is a nightmare.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/12/2019, 10:19 AM

I really like the legacy stabilizer and it's my first choice for taking out rotation in an image, it works really well. The new Vegas stabilizer also works well but not as well with rotation.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Ruby888 wrote on 8/12/2019, 10:29 AM

I really like the legacy stabilizer and it's my first choice for taking out rotation in an image, it works really well. The new Vegas stabilizer also works well but not as well with rotation.

I just requested a refund. It cost me 270 dollars Canadian for 17, and I can not justify the program that is so unstable. I will stick to 16 Pro as it works perfect and I can not remember the last time it has crashed. I can do all my image stabilization in there no problem. I will look at 17 when the bugs are out and when it comes down in price later this year like 16 did. For now 17 is way too buggy.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/12/2019, 11:38 AM

Sounds sensible.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Robert Johnston wrote on 8/16/2019, 5:02 PM

It seems that saving then closing then opening the project fixes the strange behavior after using Vegas Stabilization. All of that GPU stuff didn't matter on my system. Changing RAM to 0 does something, but it doesn't help that much. Depending on the length of my clips, after stabilization, the frame rate when playing back in video preview was less than 3 fps. After saving and closing and opening, the frame rate was normal 59.97 fps.

I also have a problem in Vegas 16 and 17 where my system locks up if I stabilize about 4 clips in a row with the Vegas Stabilizer. I finally fixed the problem by changing all those so4 entries in internal preferences from true to false (except for blacklist).

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro