Sub-Compositions

Amivideotek wrote on 9/11/2020, 12:35 AM

Hello,

I use many small .veg projects (subcompositions) that I insert into my timeline as a nested project in my main project.
This can include anything from a simple collection of different objects or to create a complete animation with text and images. I do this to work more easily and to keep my main project in the timeline clear.

This question actually goes to the developers of Vegas Pro and I'm probably not the first person to ask this question but I'm trying: Wouldn't it be possible to create a subcomposition in a main project without creating a new .veg file? 
For example: In the timeline > right click > From the menu Insert New subcomposition-event >  If necessary, adjust the length of this subcomposition-event as with other video-events > Double click on this subcomposition-event to open a completely new timeline and create a new composition with is own tracks with video's, text, audio ... > Closes when you're done and go back to the main project where you only see the subcomposition-event that can be adapted as with the other video-events and where back effects can be added.
The whole project together with the various sub-compositions are written off in the same project.veg file.

Hope makes life. Greetings Alain 😀

Vegas Pro 20 + Ignite Pro

HitFilm Pro 2023.1

Moho Pro 13.5

Luminar Neo

Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher

Blender 3D (if I have a lot of time)

Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU : Intel Core i7 @ 2.50GHz
Ram : 32.0GB
Motherboard : HP 8860 (U3E1)
Graphics : 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (HP)
Storage :
953GB MTFDHBA1T0QFD-1AX1AABHA (Unknown (SSD)) 
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM004-2CV104 (SATA )
3726GB Western Digital WDC WD40EFZX-68AWUN0 (SATA )
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Audio : Realtek High Definition Audio

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fr0sty wrote on 9/11/2020, 12:39 AM

VEGAS Effects works this way, you may want to look into it if you are using this process to make animations and title sequences and such. You make composite shots, which are mini-projects that can be seamlessly nested inside of each other. Then you can take the master project and import the .vegfx file directly into VEGAS with no rendering required, and do what you need to it from there. I do believe it still generates a file for each nested composite shot, but it's easier to get in and out of them than it is in VEGAS, and there isn't a performance hit to using them, unlike VEGAS, where nested projects play back slowly.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Amivideotek wrote on 9/15/2020, 11:29 PM

Thank you for your answer, but it's not exactly what I mean. What I would find a huge improvement in Vegas Pro is that :
- A subcomposition opens in a Main Project in a complete new Vegas Pro timeline with its own tracks.
- In subcompositions, you can use all the tools that exist or were added in Vegas Pro (VideoFX, Transitions, ...)

If you want to, you could even open a sub-subcomposition in a subcomposition, in the Main Project!

If you compare it to creating a nested project, subcompositions (on its own timelines and own tracks) are opened and closed in the Main Project by clicking on his event and all subcompositions and the Main Project are written together under one .veg file. Compare it in Hitfilm Pro with "New composite Shot" on in After Effects with "Pre-compose". Unlike nested Projects, nested Projects are written down in separates .veg files and are imported into the Main Project.😀

 

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Vegas Pro 20 + Ignite Pro

HitFilm Pro 2023.1

Moho Pro 13.5

Luminar Neo

Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher

Blender 3D (if I have a lot of time)

Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU : Intel Core i7 @ 2.50GHz
Ram : 32.0GB
Motherboard : HP 8860 (U3E1)
Graphics : 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti (HP)
Storage :
953GB MTFDHBA1T0QFD-1AX1AABHA (Unknown (SSD)) 
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM004-2CV104 (SATA )
3726GB Western Digital WDC WD40EFZX-68AWUN0 (SATA )
Optical Drives : /
Audio : Realtek High Definition Audio

fr0sty wrote on 9/17/2020, 5:41 PM

Actually, that's exactly what VEGAS Effects does, which is based on Hitfilm.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)