Subclips

bobclarg wrote on 5/8/2008, 11:36 AM

I'm new to Vegas. Still learning. In my old "appliance" editor, I can capture a complete tape and click on a screen button which commands the editor to automatically split the long clip into shorter subclips using the pulses from the camera stops. It is very convenient. Can Vegas Pro 8 do something similar to this?

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johnmeyer wrote on 5/8/2008, 11:44 AM

No. Damn shame. For some projects, it would be MUCH easier to have each capture in one contiguous file, and then have the timecode interruptions / scenes handled through markers or automatic event splits.

I think the reason is that Vegas code never actually looks at anything within the video. As a result, you can't get any information from the data contained in each frame, such as date or time, WB, f-stop, close-caption, etc. There is a timecode fX, but that just starts a counter at the beginning of the capture. It doesn't actually look at timecode on the tape.

bobclarg wrote on 5/8/2008, 12:59 PM

Thanks for the reply. My old "appliance" editor is the Casablanca Kron made by a German company called Macrosystems.

Terry Esslinger wrote on 5/8/2008, 1:30 PM

I don't know but from what you explained in your original post sounds a lot like "scene detection" in Vegas. It will capture the full tape but will automatically break it up into shorter captures or scenes dependant on the camera pauses (if you have the date/time set on your camera)

bobclarg wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:18 AM

Terry:

What you described is exactly what I want to do, but when I checked the help menu, it seems it will only do that with HDV, not with DV. Anysuggestions?

jetdv wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:23 AM

Scene detection works just fine with DV.

rs170a wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:24 AM

Where in the help menu does it say that scene detection is only for HDV?
Vegas has had this capability since the very beginning so it does work for DV.

Mike

bStro wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:33 AM

Guys, he's right. There is no reference in Vegas' online help to scene detection for DV, only for HDV.

Simply because Vegas doesn't capture DV. ;-)

Bob: Vegas captures HDV itself, but launches an external program called Sony Video Capture for capturing DV. It comes with Vegas, but isn't really part of Vegas. Ergo, Vegas' online help doesn't go into details about the program's options.

When you go to capture DV, and Vegas launches VidCap, though, you can go to its help menu to find out about its options -- including scene detection.

Rob

johnmeyer wrote on 5/9/2008, 11:04 AM

If you have already captured, and want to do the scene detection without recapturing, you can use Scenalyzer. It will look at the timecode and cut the video into segments. I thought you wanted one continuous file, but with markers of some sort at the scene breaks, much like Pinnacle Studio handles this issue.

bobclarg wrote on 5/9/2008, 3:07 PM

Everybody:
Thanks very much for your follow-ups. You people are great! Like I originally said, I am very new to Vegas 8. I haven't really done much with it yet. I haven't done any real serious capturing yet, but am trying to study the ins and outs before I get really serious. At home I have been editing with an "appliance" called the Casablanca Kron (discontinued, but is able to do automatic splits after capture) by Macrosystem, and I work for a TV station that uses a Grass Valley NLE for news editing. But Vegas is a different beast. I am about to upgrade to HD, and I'll have to do a really serious trial run with it. Again, thanks for your help.

Terry Esslinger wrote on 5/10/2008, 11:48 PM

Bob,
I still have a Kron+ sitting in my closet. What a rip having to buy each individual fx or function separately.

bobclarg wrote on 5/11/2008, 5:38 PM

I agree, Terry, but it serve my purposes well with its minimal functions. Now it's time to move on.