Suggestion for Vegas 7

farss wrote on 3/26/2005, 5:24 PM
I, like most of us use a Shuttle controller and it's fine up to a point. Only issue I have with it is all it does is emulate keyboard keystrokes. Problem I have with this is it's totally reliant on what has focus, if the focus isn't on the TL then pressing Play may or may not do anything, even things I don't want to happen.
What I'm asking for is a real transport controller, I press play and the TL plays regardless of if it has focus or not. I do appreciate this is no easy thing, probably means breaking the whole Windoz GUI, maybe I'm the only one who feels this would be worthwhile in which case please feel free to put me in my place. I'm suspecting the audio guys would also find this a step forward as well. While I'm at it can I ask how does the transport controller on the Mackie control surface work with Vegas? Seeing as how it goes in via a different interface does it work as a real transport controller?
Bob.

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mjroddy wrote on 3/26/2005, 7:45 PM
My main "complaint" with my Shuttle Pro is that when I have the focus on the Media Pool and push Play on the Shuttle, the last clip I had selected pops onto the timeline. grrr... I just wanted to see the result. Sometimes (and this is how stupid *I* am), I'll push Play 2 or 3 times wondering why I'm not seeing anything playback on my monitors. I look back to the timeline and see several instances of the clip on the timeline.
(Hope I'm not hijacking your thread, Bob. This is still related to you thoughts on Shuttle Controler in Vegas, right?)(Boot me away from the thread if not.)
farss wrote on 3/26/2005, 8:43 PM
Not at all,
in fact that's exactly one of the issues I have. I double click something in the explorer to add it to the TL and hit play on the shuttle only to find maybe way down the track that I've added the clip twice to the TL.
Combine that with wierdness of Ripple Edit (aka Ripple Wreck) and you'll start to appreciate my angst.
Bob.
dcrandall wrote on 3/26/2005, 8:55 PM
Bob,

If you have the Contour ShuttlePro2 you can make and assign a macro to give focus to the Vegas timeline before executing the play command. I've done this and it works great (It's why I upgraded from the ShuttlePro to ShuttlePro2)

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farss wrote on 3/26/2005, 9:04 PM
I was wondering about that, good suggestion. Something else to pickup cheap at NAB no doubt!
FuTz wrote on 3/28/2005, 4:07 AM
The Ripple wreck in question: I don't think it's a bad thing in itself. It's just that the "behavior" of the feature could be more adapted to our needs.
For example, being able to **quickly** switch it on and off, in a snap, would be a plus. I'm thinking about making some space on the T/L to insert a block of clips. And this switch could be a single key on the board, or three keys to fulfill all the Ripple options (selected track, all tracks, etc...). Like the W, E and R keys, for example, and with the choice in prefs to have it "switched" or "push-switched", I mean switched on and off when you press the keys OR switched WHILE you're pressing the key (so you can move your block on the T/L and when you depress the key you're back to normal).

Now, is there any keys left with all these shortcuts and keyboard combos that would allow this beautiful project to work, lol !? o_O

And, speaking of behavior and I know I'm just a bit OT with the subject now (but after all, you mentionned Vegas *7*), this "hand on the ruler" behavior. That would be so coooool to be able to grab the T/L (like I do all the time with this little hand on the ruler to go left-right) and be able to "pitch it" from one side to the other... You'd grab it, and with a quick left to right movement while it's grabbed (for example) you scroll and let the mouse go with the result that you T/L "flies" according to the "velocity" you used while doing the movement (and I did NOT mean you pitch the mouse in the nearby wall!). And as soon as you click the mouse again, it "freezes" exactly where it's at. With this feature, you could really improve editing speed when you work on long projects by being able to go left-right on you T/L, seeing the blocks of clips passing by and stopping them where you want, edit, then come back... and forth... and back... and forth.
I know that when you force the hand out of the "app's frame" the T/L goes faster and faster, but I'd like to be able not have to go to these edges of application frame. Just "pitch it" on either sides.

Thanks for reading this long post if you did.
And back to another coffee...
BrianStanding wrote on 3/28/2005, 5:12 AM
Doesn't the CTRL-F12 key play/stop regardless of focus?

FuTz wrote on 3/28/2005, 7:33 AM

I think so, if you set it up in Prefs.
It can play/stop or play/pause...


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MyST wrote on 3/28/2005, 8:07 AM
"Something else to pickup cheap at NAB no doubt!"

Last year they even had a "NAB Sale" on their website (www.contourdesign.com).
I picked up the ShuttleXpress dirt cheap.

Mario
Trichome wrote on 3/28/2005, 8:20 AM
Mackie Universal Controller play controls even if Vegas window is not focus window. This thig is awsome!
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/28/2005, 9:33 AM
Trichome, drop me an email please.
pwppch wrote on 3/28/2005, 11:00 AM
The Mackie is completely indepedent of "window focus". Think of it as an alternative GUI to Vegas. The Mackie even provides a true audio tape type scrub in addition to the shuttling (J-K-L) scrubbing Vegas exposes from the GUI, Keyboard, and the ShuttlePro device.

Basically any device that sends MIDI can be configured to control many aspects of the Vegas transport. Using the Generic Surface control device in Vegas you can learn all of the basic as well shuttle/scrub and seek to markers.

I have an old JLCooper Media Control Station2 that permits all the basic Transport as well as jog/shuttle transport functionality to be controlled.

There is a very cool new device from Frontier Design - the Tranzport. This is a wireless control device that is very cool. It has built in Mackie emulation that will give you the transport functions. Frontier is working with us to provide native support for the Tranzport in Vegas. .

Peter
farss wrote on 3/28/2005, 1:38 PM
SonyPCH,
thanks for the info, that sounds like a much better solution than the current Shuttle.
And good to see that Vegas is now big enough for 3rd parties to find it worth the effort to work with you guys.
Bob.
James S. wrote on 5/24/2006, 2:58 PM
SonyPCH - Any progress writing a native driver for the Tranzport?