Surround panning - broken in V5 or just me?

ibliss wrote on 6/13/2004, 9:13 AM
I create a 5.1 project.
I add an audio track
I add surround sound keyframe track to the audio track.
I add a few keyframes by double-clicking along the keyframe track.
I adjust one to front left (for example.
I adjust the second keyframe to rear right.
All of the keyframes are now rear right.

The only way surround keyframes seem to work is via touch automation (show automation controls etc). Some times I just want to place a few keyframes.

This to me is bug-like. Am I missing something?

Comments

thankins wrote on 6/14/2004, 1:51 PM
The panner works similarly to the Volume slider. Specifically, in order to write automation, you must first select "Show Automation Controls" by L-clicking the red "Gear"-shaped icon on the Track Header.

The "source location" icon - displayed within the surround panner - should now also look like a small gear. When you see this, you know that you are writing automation, rather than adjusting the pan trim.
ibliss wrote on 6/15/2004, 3:50 AM
Can I just confirm that we are both talking about the Surround Panner here, not the left/right slider?

Thanks for your reply, I understand that this is how surround panning is working currently.

What I dont understand is that I can't adjust keyframes without being in 'show automation controls' write mode. In Vegas 4, you could add keyframes which could be ajusted individually, in the same way you could and still can with video plugin keyframes.

Now when you drop the keyframes by double clicking, you can't actually make 'offline' changes between them at all unless in 'show automation controls' mode. This doesn't make for a very user-friendly experience, or help my workflow particularly.

With Automation controls switched on, it is IMPOSSIBLE to adjust a single surround keyframe while the track is playing - automation data justs gets written in real time at the position of the playback head. So I have to stop playback, adjust the relevant keyframe, start playback and hope I was right the first time.

At a basic level, I want to be able to drop one keyframe at point A in a track, pan it, say, rear left. Then drop another at the end of an event paned front right. WITHOUT having the extra step of turning on 'show automation controls'. This to me fits in with the rest of Vegas' workflow, eg volume envelopes which you can manually adjust when NOT in automation mode, or automate in realtime IN automation mode.
robertgable wrote on 10/8/2004, 12:37 AM
Good question. I have the same question/reaction. Apparently you never got a reply. Maybe Vegas Audio just doesn't have this capacity. Sorry I can't help; I'm in the same boat. Perhaps someone out there knows the answer for sure.