synching Vegas to Cubase ( with Cubase as master)

Mindmatter wrote on 1/5/2022, 6:53 AM

Hi all
has anyone managed to succesfully slave Vegas to Cubase?

I tried yesterday with a virtual midi port, but it wasn't very smooth. The start would be delayed and the stop would sometimes not work at all. It would come in handy, as I usually export the video and import it into cubase to work on the score, but it often takes minor reedits in Vegas to adjust lengths arnd rhythms of the edits within a given tempo, so it would avoid a constant readjusting and reimporting etc.

Anything specific I should know?

Thanks!

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misohoza wrote on 1/5/2022, 3:40 PM

Hi @Mindmatter

I tried this a couple of times but didn't get very far. I can get Vegas to sync during playback but not in stop mode. So when moving cursor in Cubase timeline Vegas doesn't follow until the playback starts.

It seems there is a slight delay when starting playback until Vegas syncs to incoming midi clock too.

So if you wanted to edit both Cubase and Vegas projects simultaneously... I don't know.

Maybe exporting audio from Cubase with markers to help you find the points you want to edit is the way to go.

Mindmatter wrote on 1/6/2022, 6:09 AM

thanks misohoza. I always manage to adjust either way, sometimes I adapt the music half a bar or so, sometimes I lengthen de video a few frames. It would just be easier to not have to export the music each time, and check it in Vegas. Doing those adaptations in real time on both programs would be cool.

Phil_P wrote on 1/6/2022, 10:55 PM

Hi guys,

Cubase & Nuendo veteran here, which version of Cubase are you using?

Can you briefly tell me what you have tried so far regarding sync methods. Maybe I can help.

misohoza wrote on 1/6/2022, 11:54 PM

Hi @Phil_P

I tried this with Cubase Pro 11. Set Cubase to send midi time code to a virtual midi port and set Vegas to trigger from midi time code. It works but only during playback. The cursor position in Vegas doesn't follow in stop mode. Also there is a lag between when you start playback in Cubase and Vegas catches up.

These are the settings I tried in Cubase.

Phil_P wrote on 1/7/2022, 1:11 AM

Great thanks. I will do some checking on this. :-)

Phil_P wrote on 1/7/2022, 1:40 AM

After a quick experiment I see what you are getting at here. It is not really fully usable.

However, I did have some success the other way round. Using Vegas to send TC to Cubase. It synced up perfectly , start stop also worked great. Then I had a further experiment Cubase > Vegas, failed again. So went back to Vegas > Cubase and that now fails with similar symptoms.

I think this was just me rushing and probably created a TC loop somewhere.
If you get a minute, do try Vegas > Cubase and see if it works for you. Although I guess this does kind of defeats the object.

Further to this, I think it has to be Vegas that has the issue here receiving TC, as I regular sync Cubase to Cubase or Cubase to Neundo for dedicated video playback and other things (yes on the same machine) and it works flawlessly. :-)

misohoza wrote on 1/7/2022, 9:30 AM

Yes, it is a bit better the other way around (Vegas sending time code to Cubase). Not perfect though. Sometimes it takes couple of clicks for the Timecode Out to be updated in Vegas when not in playback.