Tell me I'm Stupid!?!? WMP . . . dummie here!

Grazie wrote on 4/10/2004, 11:53 PM
Okay .. okay . . okay . ..

Over the past 3 weeks I have been on a bit of a Road to Damascus here . ..

When I Render As Windows Media, ver 8 or 9, I get a request/invitation to select the format from my 4:3 720x576 PAL to NTSC. Why should I do this? I made the project in PAL in 720x576? AND at 25fps? Why on Earth would I wanna go 640x480 . . ? AND why would I wanna go 30fps . . I did my project in 25 and PAL sizing? Then, after creating my own Grazie format, and then using it, the outcome out through Windows Media player was AWFUL!


. .So, folks, I'v been kicking against V4 all this time, been going to MovieFActory to get my WMV output out of the pc.

I then re-visited a WMV I did last year and there it was. WMV with 30 fps and 640x480 . . . Why did I get this sooo wrong? Why did I break my head on this 30fps, frame size shimmy? Why didn't I just accept the Project settings for non-PAL that this would NOT be the ones I would use in creating a Windows MEdia format? - What is wrong with me?

Anybody had this experience? Any road travelled the same way?

Grazie

Comments

farss wrote on 4/11/2004, 12:21 AM
Yip,
although I've found leaving the WMV settings at 640x480 but changing the fps to 25 to match the project seems to work better otherwise some tweening is required.
I've found using WME (which is free but mighty confusing at first) is the best way to encode to WMV. Problem then is I've got to render to avi first and then encode that which may not be the best thing to be doing. Ideal solution might be frame serving to WME as Vegas doesn't give you much control over the WMV encoder.
Grazie wrote on 4/11/2004, 12:28 AM
Been there too - eh? Nice to know I aint the dumbiest editor on the planet - HAH! - But yes, good points on the Frameserving thingy . . and yes avi out first then to WMP . . . I've used this format for some really highend promos for clients . . it is really good . . .

Grazie
taliesin wrote on 4/11/2004, 1:29 AM
Mmh, WMV rendering seems to behave very strange on some systems. On my both Vegas setups I have no problems like this. Going to the video tab within the render dialog I have I can choose a custum image size and I can use any value I want. PAL resolution works fine here.
But it is a hard way to get 25 fps here. Anytime I set this value of 25, go to a different tab and go back to the video tab the fps is set to 60 fps again. What I have to do is to make the fps setting as the very last step when defining all the render settings. Fps setting at last and doing it by entering the value "25", hitting the "Enter" key and just starting the rendering. Any further action in the render dialog would set the fps back to 60. Stupid thing about it is: There is no way at all to save a template containing a 25 fps setting. Thus it is impossible to use a 25 fps WMV9 rendering for a batch render, because this needs to use a render template.

And I know some other users who are not able to choose the Version 9 of WMV at all. They started with a clean WindowsXP installation and Vegas 4: No WMV9 videocodec available. They installed the WM-Codec package and WMP9 afterwards but still there is no WMV9 video codec available in Vegas.

Marco