The Future

gwyador wrote on 6/18/2007, 5:02 PM
greetings my fellow vegas users!! I have been using vegas since it was first released as an audio only editor... but now I am beginning to get a little concerned about the future as maybe many of you...

I have been making movies for a long time as well and have used just about every editor that is out there including final cut pro and avid and premeire, but I always come back to vegas. Now at vegas 7, it still serves me well, and i admit, being somewhat of a sony camera fan, I am pleased that sony continues to develop my chosen editor...

why I am writing this is that I am getting a bit concerned with the course of events that is happening with editors and I hope some of my thoughts will reach sony and at least strike a chord with them(assuming they also see what I am seeing and already have a plan but it helps to voice my thoughts)

It seems the wave of the future on the pc is vista and well "suites"
now I am NOT a fan of vista, I have been unimpressed with the HELL it is to install and work with when dealing with multimedia!! It DOES PROMISE great things what with terabytes of addressable ram and 64/128 processor capability in the future... but I have to work NOW!!

one more thing, I hate coughing up cash for upgrades as much as the next guy so I look for things that I NEED in an upgrade... Adobe has me feeling like I am over a barrell for the new AE, and what they really want is my 1200$ to upgrade to their "SUITE" fortunately I don't NEED their upgrade (yet) since they just boosted the upgrade price(just for AEP) 100$ more that previous upgrades!! but it should be clear that I WILL pay for good improvements that are useful to me!!

Many of my fellow editors have been swayed in the way of the macintosh and the new final cut suite that has become so affordable and so multi talented... I must confess being tempted... a little... and yet, for me, most of what I see has swayed them has been available in vegas for some time. I suspect the new "ad flash" and promotional spin they have placed on it is the reason it is coming to light now... along with the new low price and well... 32 bit color effects in their new "COLOR" app.

Many things are already in vegas but there are some things that vegas does NOT provide that FCP suite and dare I say it.. Adobes production suite DO offer that it would be nice to in some way connect with....

I currently use vegas 7 and adobe after effects 7 pro and do most anything with the two but since... many of the filmmakers I know and work with use the DVC-PRO HD codec... it would be nice to natively work with that format without using my tools to convert it but that is not really MAJOR for me as I have a work around...

It WOULD be nice to have a 10-bit editing space as currently on P-PRO 2.0 and FCP Suite offer that.

It WOULD be nice to have a smoother(more universal) conversion to the .aaf files for import and export from after effects...

It WOULD be nice to have more responsive meters(I can live with DV-Rack but since I am mentioning things...)

It WOULD be nice to be able to import FLASH projects (other then for just titling... probably won't happen now that adobe has their grip on flash but worth mentioning)

And essentially more color controls and maybe even more use of video card capabilities... (being compatible with the new magic bullet 3.0 looks would be a good start... I plan to get it anyway for AE but I saw that it was being considered for vegas so I thought I would plug that too...)

Thanks For Listening, and heres looking forward to vegas 8!! Bryan

Comments

gwyador wrote on 6/18/2007, 6:45 PM
I just want to add that that if sony wanted to, they could put one heck of a "suite" together(I already own most of the elements anyway) but my biggest concerns lay in the fact that a couple of revisions ago vegas had canopus with an i/o card(which I own) for it and was doing huge things with decklink cards but since grass valley bought canopus and premeire pro went 2.0 you don't hear much talk about those relationships much anymore.... I consider vegas a pro tool... I hope it stays that way!!!

PS, how does vegas manage XD-CAM suppor without 10-bit???
farss wrote on 6/18/2007, 9:32 PM
XDCAM is 8 bit 4:2:0 although there's a new XDCAM camera announced at NAB that's 4:2:2 but still 8 bit.

Bob.
rmack350 wrote on 6/18/2007, 10:58 PM
I spend a fair chunk of each week working in Flash doing small things in actionscript. It just makes me wonder what specifically you want Vegas to do with a swf file? For instance, I'm pretty sure that you don't want to import a web page authored in Flash to the Vegas timeline.

Could you give some specifics about this?

Rob Mack
gwyador wrote on 6/19/2007, 8:59 AM
Bob, thanks for the correction... obviously I don't use XD-Cam currently or I would have known this... I guess I assumed since digi-beta was 10-bit that it's replacement would be too... oh well... so much for the xd-cam comments... mpeg compression and long GOP make it 8 bit video.... and apparently they chose 4.2.0 color space like HDV... I am even okay with that...

Rob, as far as SWF support... I don't use it a whole lot but I had occasion to work on a TV show where the director brought me an intro in SWF and I had THOUGHT I could pull the layers onto the timeline and tighten it up but I was wrong... in researching it in the manual only certain attributes of swfs are compatible with vegas... so i had to pull it in to flash and export it as an avi to use, which meant I was tied to their frame generator... that is all.. if there is another way i would love to hear it, as I would like to improve that for future episodes of the project!@!

Finally, Does no one else see the trends I have described above? is no one else a little bit concerned?? maybe my post was a waste... If not... to all whom it may concern... sorry for wasting your time

Bryan