The Old Question about updating hardware

Former user wrote on 8/20/2018, 8:58 PM

I have always built my own computers, but I now want to upgrade and frankly am getting tired of dealing with all of the variables of CPU, Memory types, etc. If I buy an off the shelf I7 computer, what are the pitfalls I need to watch out for? Thanks

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OldSmoke wrote on 8/20/2018, 9:12 PM

Wouldn’t your research be the same, whether you buy off the shelve or build your own?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Former user wrote on 8/20/2018, 9:15 PM

But I wouldn't have to determine every little part (power supply, motherboard, etc). Also, it seems I can buy an I7 computer off the shelf cheaper than buying parts. But your point is valid. That is why I was asking I guess. Is there a benefit? What are the dangers?

OldSmoke wrote on 8/20/2018, 9:19 PM

I didn’t see a benefit in the past which is why I started building my own and I won’t go back. The only benefit you might say is that you have a warranty for the system as a whole. The downside is that you will hardly get exactly what you want or need and if, it comes at a higher price.

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Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Former user wrote on 8/20/2018, 9:44 PM

But I wouldn't have to determine every little part (power supply, motherboard, etc). Also, it seems I can buy an I7 computer off the shelf cheaper than buying parts.

Yes the benefit is cheapness. System cheaper than you can buy it for & as a bonus you get 2year or 3 year warranty for free. If it comes with 16gb of ram, prob only 1 stick, so can't run dual channel. This matters more for games, I think with video rendering you get about 6% real world increase in speed. PSU will be cheap which could affect adding HDD's, overclocking cpu/gpu.

The system being alot cheaper than buying parts would not be as extreme now that GPU prices are almost back to normal.

Former user wrote on 8/20/2018, 9:46 PM

Bob-h, good point about the PSU. I would need to add a couple of drives for storage. I don't see the need to overclock for my work, but adding storage and maybe a PCI card (if need arises) are concerns. Thanks for the input.

 

Former user wrote on 8/20/2018, 11:20 PM

If you were to add an internal raid rather than NAS you could have problems. With cheap PSU's it's voltage regulation that is often the problem during a constant draw & rather than your PSU dying prematurely because it's cheap it could kill your components because it's cheap. I don't know this to be fact but HDD's would likely be very sensitive to voltages as motors/stepper motors are known to be sensitive & all my HDD's that have died except 1 were external HDD enclosures with cheap crap switched mode PSU's.

OldSmoke wrote on 8/21/2018, 7:16 AM

If you were to add an internal raid rather than NAS you could have problems. With cheap PSU's it's voltage regulation that is often the problem during a constant draw & rather than your PSU dying prematurely because it's cheap it could kill your components because it's cheap. I don't know this to be fact but HDD's would likely be very sensitive to voltages as motors/stepper motors are known to be sensitive & all my HDD's that have died except 1 were external HDD enclosures with cheap crap switched mode PSU's.

As the saying goes: "You get what you pay for".

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)