...that BUGS me is my "appletree" goes from Acid 4 (sonar131) to SF6 to VV3, and I've got my video stuff turned off...I mean, the tutorials are fun, but it's a waste of time for me presently (I still like the capability, but it complicates my life, BIG time)...so, why would I check CD5.0..? for precisely the same reason...for me to do demos, I've GOT to have a clear assets to help me, and that equates to a clear beginning, middle and end for song demos and the like(not considering pencil and paper, which is where ALL of my ideas begin)...so the less "fluff", the better...I'm even not carrying sonar right now because of it, altho, again, I like the capability to be handy...