Thin Tannoy Recording, any ideas for a remedy?

Grazie wrote on 1/19/2022, 5:43 AM

I have a Voice Announcement made over a Tannoy. The voice is a bit “thin” and tonally a wee bit high. What would be your choice of weapon to rectify it?

Cheers - G

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Dexcon wrote on 1/19/2022, 6:11 AM

Tannoy has an excellent history in speakers - but which Tannoy speakers? In the end, it doesn't really matter. If you want to EQ the VO to those speakers (I do that myself for my Klipsch speakers), then I'd suggest using almost any EQ FX to tweak the VO to suit. Some do it better than others. For example, iZotope's Neutron 3 allows other customisable FX to subtly improve the 'sound' - it has presets for many VO situations that can be altered to suit.

And ... a consideration is which microphone has been used to record the VO. Condenser microphones are really good for VOs, but dynamic mikes like Shures' SM58 or SM58 Beta (directional) work well). Of all issues with making projects in VP, the bane of my life has long been VOs. Happily, I finally got it right with the last one - but with a lot of help from RX Adv and Neutron 3.

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Grazie wrote on 1/19/2022, 6:23 AM

Which Tannoys, I don’t know, sorry. I was using it as a generic way to describe how I was hearing/recording. They may very well NOT have been Tannoys. I should have said, rather, a public address system. Moving on…..

I like your advice on EQing with Neutron. I just want it fatter and deeper.

Dexcon wrote on 1/19/2022, 6:40 AM

 I just want it fatter and deeper

Some of the presets in Neutron will deliver that in spades, but without some of the nuances of Neutron, I think that the basic audio EQ FX in Vegas Pro could well give that lower end boost. But it does depend on the original voice - as much as I would like, no audio FX at all is going to make my voice sound like James Earl Jones (and so many others).

If you want a PA sound, perhaps whack in some reverb which is typical of the sound of PA systems in open spaces.

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Grazie wrote on 1/19/2022, 7:02 AM

@Dexcon - Yes, all good points. I was going to put a dash of reverb - nice. And no, not needing JEJ. Oh, is there another way to model that which I’ve got of the same male voice to this? It’s the same announcer. You know what, I recently reinstalled that Audio copy thing that will mimic atmospheric soundscapes. And it was called……????

Grazie wrote on 1/19/2022, 7:42 AM

Acoustic Mirror!!!

rraud wrote on 1/19/2022, 9:06 AM

What would be your choice of weapon to rectify it

It depends on what you want, Do want to simulate an environment with a PA system, (airport, ballpark, other), or make it sound like it was recorded properly with a good mic in a studio.

Grazie wrote on 1/19/2022, 9:51 AM

@rraud - Good observation. What I have is thicken or fatten the male voice.

rraud wrote on 1/19/2022, 10:53 AM

Hi @Grazie and best wishes for 2022.

EQ, and/or a multiband compressor (which allows boosting/cutting the frequency ranges with or without compression). If it is really thin, a bass enhancement plug-in (like Waves Renaissance) can generate the low end.. followed by a HPF (high pass filter) to attenuate frequencies below 100Hz or thereabouts.