This Ever Happen to You...?

Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/28/2007, 2:46 PM

I was rendering an mpg2 for DVDA (did everything the same way I've been doing it for years), took about 90 minutes. The render finished, no apparent problems (no error messages), and when I went to get the file, it wasn't there!

Then I did a search of the drive it was rendered to... "File not found."

I've never had this happen before. Have you?


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Chienworks wrote on 5/28/2007, 3:28 PM
Yep, a few times. I've panicked and re-rendered, only to discover later that i had typoed the name when starting the render. I may have stuck an extra letter at the beginning so that it wasn't even in the right area of the directory listing when sorted alphabetically.

I've learned now to sort my directories with the newest files first, then use F5 (refresh). That makes these mistakes easier to track down.

Sometimes i will have rendered to the wrong directory AND forgotten what i named it. I just go to Render As again and the directory that opens up is the last one used, so then i know where to search.
GenJerDan wrote on 5/28/2007, 4:09 PM
You can also do a Search by date, using "in the last 1 days" and "Lookin local hard drives" to find everything that was created recently. It should show up in there.
rs170a wrote on 5/28/2007, 4:16 PM
I just go to Render As again and the directory that opens up is the last one used, so then i know where to search.

This solution has save me more times than I care to remember - or admit to :-)
My usual solution is to have a separate folder within the project folder called DVD renders specifically for the MPEG-2 and AC-3 files.

Mike
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/28/2007, 4:41 PM

Thank, guys...

I've already done what you all suggested. I have a specific folder I render the DVD files (AC3 and MPG) to in preparation for burning. The AC3 is there but the mpg won't show up!

This is a hard nut to crack!


farss wrote on 5/28/2007, 6:58 PM
One way this can happen is if you cancelled the render by mistake.
The mpeg render in particular has a bad habit of showing 100% completion even though it isn't, it can take a significant amount of time after it reaches the 100% mark before the dialogue changes to say Render Complete. If you cancel the render before it's Complete, goodbye file.

Bob.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/28/2007, 7:49 PM

No, didn't cancel render. No reason to.

I've rendered to .avi, that worked. Now I'm rendering from the .avi, instead of the timeline. It's bedtime, here, so hopefully I'll have something waiting for me when I awake up tomorrow, or later today if you're "down under."


johnmeyer wrote on 5/28/2007, 9:25 PM
I think Bob may have the right answer in his last post above.

I understand that you didn't intentionally cancel, but Vegas has what I consider a bug in that the dialog will show "100%," but the render is not finished. This bogus 100% message can be displayed for several minutes (or longer). If you click on what you think is the OK button to dismiss the "finished" dialog, you actually will completely cancel your render.

Copied below is the bug report I sent to Sony exactly one year ago today. Note the section I highlighted. Sound familiar??

As is often the case, they did not get around to changing this, and I believe the same behavior still exists in Vegas 7.x
I just switched to Vegas which was doing an MPEG-2 render in the background. The progress bar shows "100%." I moved the mouse to the "Close" button to dismiss the alert so I could close down and start DVD Architect. Just before I pressed the mouse button, however, I noticed that the button didn't say "Close" but instead said "Cancel."

I have run into this before. The progress bar in Vegas shows 100%, but the rest of the dialog is still showing the buttons that are shown throughout the render process. What makes this worse is that the layout and look of the progress dialog is identical in every respect except that the Cancel button changes to Close. What's worse, if you click Cancel, the render cancels, without any further confirmation alert. Think it doesn't get worse? Well it does. If you go to the folder where the rendered file should be, there is nothing there. Partial renders are no longer saved when doing MPEG-2. Thus, if the render takes two days, and you accidentally click on Cancel, your whole day (oh, make that two days) are ruined.

Should be a confirmation alert. Should make the dialog look different when the render is finished. And most important, you shouldn't display 100% until the render is actually finished.

This is Vegas 6.0d.


Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/29/2007, 3:53 AM

Ooohhh... I see.

Bob, I was half asleep when I read your post. Obviously, I didn't get the full meaning of what you were saying--my apologies!

John, I'm still in Vegas 5. Was that a problem present in that version?

I've noticed that the progress bar will show 100% but two buttons of the three buttons are still grayed out for a few seconds. It is possible that I was not paying attention and hit the "cancel" button without noticing.

Thanks again.

And yes, this morning the .mpg file was there!


johnmeyer wrote on 5/29/2007, 7:00 AM
John, I'm still in Vegas 5. Was that a problem present in that version?

I think so, although I think 4&5 may have kept partial MPEG renders when you quit. For the life of me, I don't know why Sony wouldn't keep partial renders under any circumstance. I'd rather have the option of joining in Womble, or figuring out a way to author my DVD using multiple MPEG files rather than being forced to go back and do two days (as was the case when I wrote that bug report) of needless rendering, when all but the last ten second was finished.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/29/2007, 8:41 AM

So one can only presume the safest approach would be to check the box that reads, "Close this dialog box when rendering completes."

Would that work?


johnmeyer wrote on 5/29/2007, 10:24 AM
So one can only presume the safest approach would be to check the box that reads, "Close this dialog box when rendering completes."

That's a very good suggestion for a workaround. Very nice! Yes, I think that would work.
TShaw wrote on 5/29/2007, 6:08 PM
So one can only presume the safest approach would be to check the box that reads, "Close this dialog box when rendering completes."

Thats how I do it here after I lost a render some years back. It's the only safe way to go.

Terry