Thought I would give vegas 15 a shot at stabilizing a project. Help?

david-ruby wrote on 2/17/2020, 3:00 PM

Well I decided I would try Vegas 15 for some editing of proxies and then stabilizing the edits today.I own the Vegas 15 suite. I got the editing done no problem. Then I started stabilizing a few clips. After about the 5 th one vegas freezes and shuts down while 3% in. Restarted again. Same after a few more times of stabilizing.Yes I know there is a Vegas 17. But I paid for this and could not get it to work for our company due to crashes and not Vegas not liking our sony footage. Thus why I chose a proxie. Is there a fix for this or is it the I must pay to get the fix under a newer version? Yeah I am a little miffed. When Sony ran it's software out of wisconsin? There service and employees had a passion for vegas. I still own the first version. Oh and sound forge as well.I too was passionate being an R&D tester for them in the day. I would really love to use the software again but I can't afford to pay for bug fixes every time. If there is any fix for this I appreciate any info. My poor Vegas just sits on a desktop doing nothing.Yes our main software is stable as a rock but it's not Vegas. : (

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Reyfox wrote on 2/17/2020, 3:19 PM

I was watching a video on stabilizing with VP17. The person who made the video said the same thing, and the only workaround was to save the stabilized videos and render them out.

I've used the stabilizer in VP15 and was content with the results, but I never had to do more than a couple of video clips at a time. Also, never had stability issues with VP15 or constant crashes. But that's "me". I am also guessing you have the latest patch for it?

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david-ruby wrote on 2/17/2020, 3:38 PM

Thanks Reyfox. Yes all up to date. I think I just watched that video LOL. Yeah it makes me sad to keep coming back to try and hope that I can use this more for our work but still not stable enough here with the footage and all. Crazy.

j-v wrote on 2/17/2020, 3:39 PM

@david-ruby

How did you stabilize?

At a subclip as Media FX?
One by one or in batch?
Afaik all this has nothing to do with proxies, a proxyfile sometimes is better for editing and playing your sourcefiles if you do that not higher than your preview not higher than the setting "preview".

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james-ollick wrote on 2/17/2020, 4:00 PM

When Sony ran it's software out of wisconsin? There service and employees had a passion for vegas. I still own the first version. Oh and sound forge as well.I too was passionate being an R&D tester for them in the day.

You will be happy to know that Gary, the founder of Vegas, is still in charge and very much involved with the software. The only difference now is that Magix is funding the operation in Wisconsin and not Sony. :-)

Yon can see him on the Vegas Pro YouTube channel here

 

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VEGASPascal wrote on 2/18/2020, 10:29 AM

A lot has happened in the last two versions. VEGAS has got its own video stabilization. With the help of the community, this was adapted and expanded to the needs of the users. This step was also urgently necessary because the old plugin shows problems for many users.

I was watching a video on stabilizing with VP17. The person who made the video said the same thing, and the only workaround was to save the stabilized videos and render them out.

??? Please show me the link.

There service and employees had a passion for vegas.

Nothing is changed. 😁

david-ruby wrote on 2/18/2020, 11:12 AM

@david-ruby

How did you stabilize?

At a subclip as Media FX?
One by one or in batch?
Afaik all this has nothing to do with proxies, a proxyfile sometimes is better for editing and playing your sourcefiles if you do that not higher than your preview not higher than the setting "preview".

I stabilized clip by clip. As a media FX.

david-ruby wrote on 2/18/2020, 11:14 AM

When Sony ran it's software out of wisconsin? There service and employees had a passion for vegas. I still own the first version. Oh and sound forge as well.I too was passionate being an R&D tester for them in the day.

You will be happy to know that Gary, the founder of Vegas, is still in charge and very much involved with the software. The only difference now is that Magix is funding the operation in Wisconsin and not Sony. :-)

Yon can see him on the Vegas Pro YouTube channel here

 

Awesome. I did not know Gary was still onboard. I will have to see if Dave is still there. They were so cool. They even had me send my computer from Illinois to wisconsin to figure out a bug they couldn't reproduce. Crazy huh. Great folks.

wwjd wrote on 2/19/2020, 6:23 AM

VP15 stabilize chocked on almost all my GH4 4K clips. Never found a fix. :( Unsure if 17 is better as I havent used it a lot. Looks like a different plug though, so maybe something was updated.

andyrpsmith wrote on 2/19/2020, 7:32 AM

Well I decided I would try Vegas 15 for some editing of proxies and then stabilizing the edits today.I own the Vegas 15 suite. I got the editing done no problem. Then I started stabilizing a few clips. After about the 5 th one vegas freezes and shuts down while 3% in. Restarted again. Same after a few more times of stabilizing.Yes I know there is a Vegas 17. But I paid for this and could not get it to work for our company due to crashes and not Vegas not liking our sony footage. Thus why I chose a proxie. Is there a fix for this or is it the I must pay to get the fix under a newer version? Yeah I am a little miffed. When Sony ran it's software out of wisconsin? There service and employees had a passion for vegas. I still own the first version. Oh and sound forge as well.I too was passionate being an R&D tester for them in the day. I would really love to use the software again but I can't afford to pay for bug fixes every time. If there is any fix for this I appreciate any info. My poor Vegas just sits on a desktop doing nothing.Yes our main software is stable as a rock but it's not Vegas. : (

Help?

The legacy stabilization based on Mercalli ver 2 is prone to crash about 20% of the time on certain clips with Sony AVC (I have a Sony AX100 camera). There is nothing you can do other than use an alternative version (mercalli ver 4 or 5). The updated stabilization with version 17 is much much less liable to crash and I can stabilize the same clip that will crash with vegas 15/16 with Vegas 17.

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david-ruby wrote on 2/19/2020, 9:25 AM

VP15 stabilize chocked on almost all my GH4 4K clips. Never found a fix. :( Unsure if 17 is better as I havent used it a lot. Looks like a different plug though, so maybe something was updated.

Yep. Using sony XAVC from sony a73

john-rappl wrote on 2/19/2020, 11:37 AM

I was never able to get VP15 to stabilize any 4K video, it would either hang or crash. I had one project I really needed it for and ended up using a cheap competing product and it worked!

I have not tried it but VP17 claims an all new video stablization to correct the issues with previous versions. I was happy with VP15 but paid to upgrade to VP17 in hopes of some specific problems getting fixed. Some were, some were not - oh well. The real problem is when they come out with a bugfix but break other stuff!

Reyfox wrote on 3/5/2020, 6:48 AM

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Sorry for the long delay in replying....

Here is the link to the video by Scrapyard Films. He talks about his issues with VP17 stabilization across multiple clips.

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