Searched high and low in older posts and found nothing to do with this topic. seems all questions I see do not relate to any problem I have. Which I am sure will always be the case!
. VMS HD platinum 11. 1 sony dcr sx85 1 panasonic pv gs150 which uses a tape and I used another borrowed samsung that recorded right to drive. I would like to render for youtube and dvd. The longest song is 13 minutes btw.

The rendering option you speak of is under project properties? Adjust source media to better match project or render settings? It was checked already if that was what you referenced.

I managed to line all 3 videos up and sync them to the newly mixed audio even with the fact that disable snapping really does not disable snapping. but thats another topic.

I have everything playing perfectly the way I want it on the preview screen. So why does everything come out completely out of whack from what it looked like pre render. This seems like such an easy answer for those doing this all of the time.

hi there

what system do you have ? ram os version, hd cpu et?

why are you using snaping to sync? why not (kiss) expand tracks then link track to audio? group then edit and move on.

snapping needs a lot of very very fine adjustment so you must expand the tracks, much like working with stereoscopic imagery treat sound the same way when you edit.
make sure the group or ungroup option is active as is appropriate so you can adjust the music on its track.
while it is nice to stack video and music on seperate tracks, eventualy you might find it better to move everything onto one video / audio track.

when you render close all the preview windows, you should have just the timeline open.

Here is a list of some well-known formats that YouTube supports:

WebM files - Vp8 video codec and Vorbis Audio codecs
.MPEG4, 3GPP and MOV files - Typically supporting h264, mpeg4 video codecs and AAC audio codec
.AVI - Many cameras output this format - typically the video codec is MJPEG and audio is PCM
.MPEGPS - Typically supporting MPEG2 video codec and MP2 audio
.WMV
.FLV - Adobe-FLV1 video codec, MP3 audio

Here is a list of some common formats that YouTube does NOT support:

MSWMM and WLMP: You can easily convert these project files to .WMV.
Audio files (MP3, WAV etc.) and Image files (JPG, PNG etc.): Convert these files to video slide shows.

make sure your video is de interlaced.
and the video and music starts and ends at the same time. preferabaly right at the start for utube


you can also find lots of help on the youtube forum.

have fun and enjoy learning about video as that's what its meant to be.... FUN

Here's a tutorial for rendering files for youtube:

http://eugenia.queru.com/2007/11/09/exporting-with-vegas-for-vimeo-hd/

Here's another tutorial using Handbrake for the final render:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=766699&Replies=19

It's on the Pro forum but it still applies to VMS.

sony dcr sx85 1 panasonic pv gs150 which uses a tape and I used another borrowed samsung that recorded right to drive.

Here's what I'd like you to do:

1) Right click on an event (clip), one from each cam
2) Go to the Media tab
3) Post the results for each of these fields:

a) Format
b) Attributes
c) Frame rate
d) Field order
e) Pixel aspect ratio

Please expand on "out of whack" and describe in more detail what you're seeing with the rendered video.

I suspect that the video from one of the cams is causing you grief when rendering. It could be the field order that's tripping you up. Two of them may be lower field first and the other upper field first. It's possible that when rendering, it's causing it to be "out of whack".

Percussion cam
Format= AVC
Attributes=720x480x12,803.376
Frame RATE= 29.970
field order= none (progressive scan)
Pixel aspect ratio=n0.9091 (ntsc dv)

violin video:
format= mpeg-2
attributes=720x480x32, 813.813
frame rate=29.970 (ntsc)
field order= upper field first
pixel aspect ratio= 1.2121 ( ntsc dv widscreen)

guitar video:
format =windows media video 9
attribute= 640x480x16, 2,835.503
field order= none (non progressive)
pixel aspect ratio= 1.0000 (square)

there are the things you asked for. My computer is an old windows xp home, intel pentium 4 cpu 3.00ghz
2.99ghz, 2 gb ram service pack 3. all the info I have on it. It seems to be running perfect. No crashing issues what so ever and works with a heavy audio load from doing live recordings and it hardly ever goes online.

I will explain how I get to where I get before the big let down. When I set up to record the band audio and video I clap 3 times really hard to see the spikes on the audio from the video and the audio wav forms in my music software. When I put them int vms I want to line all audio from the videos up to the 3 claps on my final mix from audio software. You cant do that by cutting right in front of the claps on the video because the cursor does not scroll smoothly even when you disable snapping up to the front of the claps. It always makes big jumps so..I carefully ungroup each video from its audio then slide the beginning of the videos to the right from the audio. By doing that I can move the audio exactly to where the first clap spikes. Then I highlight the audio and video and drag it to the very begining of the project. I repeat that process for all 3 musicians.
Then when I hit play everything is perfectly lined up between my audio and video clips. So then I size them up on the preview screen which I have on a second monitor as well as the preview screen. I play them and all is perfect except for the choppyness of the preview video. All music is lined up. Then I mute each audio track from the videos to only hear my final mastered audio. Still all is good. So now I am ready to render. I have gotten it right once btw but on a different song. Here is that layout.

Forgot I had this vid if what happens on the net. I wasnt trying to make it look like the first link. The guitar and violin were tucked in the top right and left corners and percussion in the midde with minimal backround black.

I have applied the same properties to that other song but no dice. It renders and all of my video on the rendered movie is dispalced from where I had it lined up. That is what I mean by out of whack. The videos moved from where I had them on the preview screen.
Hope that cleared up what I am doing. Am I expecting too much of my software to render what is on the preview screen the way I want it?

Wow, each camera is a different format and aspect ratio. That makes it interesting.

If the layout doesn't render the way it looks on the preview, I then have to ask what the project properties are and what render settings you're using. If they don't match, that could lead to them being "out of whack".

Do you have the project files for the song you got right? You could do a stare and compare to make the new song match.

In the Event Properties, Video Event tab, you could uncheck Maintain aspect ratio if the video for that event looks squished.

I'm not sure you have to go to the extra effort to pre-render each camera to a new file after applying pan/crop to get them all to the same aspect ratio but it may be something to think about.

Added: Nice music!!! I kept it playing in the background while reading other posts on this and the Pro forum. I dig it.