Transitions

hishd wrote on 12/9/2001, 1:18 PM

Anybody out there know how (if) you can add additive/disolve(or any other) transitions at cuts within an event? I have tried every thing I can think of without success. I have tried splitting events and then overlapping cuts which gives me the same visual appearence as an additive/disolve on the editing time line but nothing happens at that point when playing back. I have even copied the cut,cut the cut and/or deleted the old cut before creating a time add to paste (or Paste insert) into the time add space and nothing seems to work. Is this just not possible in VF or am I missing something. (I realize I could go back and capture each cut as a seperate event but that would be unbelievably time consuming.) Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Chienworks wrote on 12/9/2001, 1:59 PM

Hmmm. I just dragged an event onto the timeline, split it, and then
extended the left clip over the right one to create an overlap (this sets
the clips to both play identical material during the overlap), and then
dragged a transition onto the overlap. It worked fine.

Next i split in a different place, then dragged the right event over the
left one to create an overlap (this sets the clips to play different material
during the overlap), and then dragged a transition onto the overlap. It
also worked fine.

Are you doing anything different than what i just described?

wvg wrote on 12/9/2001, 6:30 PM

Could be your transition time is so short, you never see the transition.

The easy way:

1. Enable Automatic Crossfades on the toolbar. By itself it creates a simple disolve.

2. Split an "event", then overlap (drag on the timeline) with an enjoining event until you see a blue "x" which indicates the length (time) of the transition as you overlap events.

3. If you want to get fancy, select a transition from the transition tab and drag it to the timeline, letting it go over the "x" or transition area you created in the previous step.

If "events" butt up to one another, AFAIK the transition won't stick, or if your overlap is very short, it may comprise so few frames you won't see it.

hishd wrote on 12/10/2001, 12:22 AM

Thanks to both of you but I am doing exactly what both of you suggest, (I think). I am splitting the event, dragging one event to overlap the other, (I do go until the blue x is clearly visible, in fact I have overdone the overlap just to make sure) moving the cursor back along the time line to before the transition and then running the clip to check. As the cursor moves through the transition there is absolutely no effect on the preview screen. Oh, and yes I do have the auto cross fad activated. By the way I have VF 1.0 I guess, as I went online this evening and downloaded what I thought was a free update to my software but when I installed it I found that I had a demo version of VF 2.0 and had to buy it for $60.00. I just got my edition of VF less than a month ago and am a bit put out that they sent me the first release and are now charging me almost as much as the first one for a new edition that they either already had available or which became available almost immediately....all with no "by the way dear customer the new version will be on sale within the month".
By the way I have tried dragging left to right and then right to left at the transition point and still nothing. If it's working for you guys I must be just making some simple STUPID mistake, but I'll be damed if I know what it is. Any more suggestions??

Chienworks wrote on 12/10/2001, 6:42 AM

Ouch! I'm sorry :(
Where did you get your VF 1.0? I'm guessing not directly from Sonic
Foundry. I downloaded version 2.0 back in July, so it's been out a good
long while.

wvg wrote on 12/10/2001, 8:40 AM

I've had Video Factory since version one and currently have version two and also the demo of VV3 and each uses the same method for transitions. So it seems like your install is corrupt or one or more files are missing. You could try a reinstall, or drop tech support a note. Good luck.

hishd wrote on 12/10/2001, 10:16 AM

Thanks to both of you for the come back. I did order VF2 last night and when it arrives I will uninstall previous programs and install version 2. Hopefully that will correct the problem. If I remember correctly I ordered from Amazon (or maybe Buy.com) and whichever site it was made no mention of a later version. You are correct that I should't be railing at Sonic Factory...I had not stoped to think about where I ordered it from. Will certainly be more cautious in the future. I'll get back here next week and let you know if the above works. Thanks again!

HeeHee wrote on 12/10/2001, 4:13 PM

Hi, got in this thread late, but just wanted to give you an FYI.

I had the same problem in VF 1.0. I think what you are talking about is that you don't see the transitions when you do a preview or pre-render. If you render the project the transitions should show up. VF 2.0 fixes the bugs that VF 1.0 had when previewing/pre-rendering movies.

hishd wrote on 12/15/2001, 9:41 AM

Well, I received the VF2 software and installed it this morning. I am still having the same problem!! I split an event and then drag one over the other at the split point and playback to check the transition. NO EFFECT! HEEHEE, I did select render to check out your suggestion but when the time required rose abov e thirty minutes (15 minutes total on the timeline) I gave up on that for the time being since you said this glitch had been corrected in VF2. At the beginning of the time line I had previously created extra time and copied and inserted first some scenery footage (from later in the project) and then a still to place the title over. These two insertions became seperate events and the cross fade on both of them works perfectly. The problem seems to lie in trying to crossfade between cuts within a previously placed event. I notice that the instructions say that you are creating REGIONS within an event when you do a split. Also the instructions only refer to EVENTS when discussing transitions. Also, With the VF2 software when I do the split and drag an effect and then click on the effect box it the resulting window says that the transition is between clip 0 and clip 0...could this be the problem.. I can't find an instruction about numbering clips (cuts) so that they are recognized as different events. Thanks for your input folks....I am really baffeled.

Former user wrote on 12/15/2001, 11:57 AM

You are not by any chance (and please excuse me, I am not trying to offend you) dragging the second half of the video to the second video track and then overlapping?

In this case you will get a blue X on the audio track, but you will have a cut to the video.

DaveT2

hishd wrote on 12/16/2001, 9:44 AM

DaveT2,
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking but I am just draging along the video time line horozontaly to overlap the two sections of video at the split point. Are you saying I should be draging vertically to the adjacent video track to get the program to recognize a transition at the newly entered split point?

Former user wrote on 12/16/2001, 10:29 AM

No, I was asking if you are doing that.

It sounds like you are doing everything correctly, so I don't understand either, why it isn't working. I have had no problems with transitions in either VF1 or VF2.

I know MS DirectX plays some role in rendering effects, but I don't know about preview. What version of DirectX are you running?

Dave T2

hishd wrote on 12/18/2001, 7:35 AM

I believe it's 8.0 (Direct-X) but which ever it is it should be correct because when VF 2.0 installed it checked for the correct version of all sister software and contains the updates if needed.