the integration is just a sick joke.

use boris in standalone... no other choice...

inside vegas you will or probably will have problems... i was tryng to use vegas with boris red since the first version that works with vegas. if you search, you will find others topics about that. Boris FX inc. says: "vegas plugin limitation". no doubt about it.

Is no one else dissatisfied with the operation of the Chroma Keyer in BorisFX used as a plugin in Vegas. I am kinda surprised that no one is having the same issue.

I for one, have given up on using Boris within Vegas. My Boris products are sitting on the unused software shelf in my closet. I suspect only a few folks are using the Boris chroma keyer.

David

I've never used the chroma keyer, but I've had tons of problems with the intergration in Vegas.

It sounds sorta like a problem I've had using Graffiti, where it looks fine, even when previewing in Vegas, but go to render and the text is all over the place.

I've lost hours of my life trying to figure this one out, and the tech support at Boris was unhelpful. They don't even have forums on their website anymore, but I tried creative cow and another one, again, no help there.

Boris and Vegas user are on their own, and it totally doesn't work right!

Agree also have spend lots of hours just to figure this out . You don't expect such thing when they say improved integration... you get to wonder what it was like before that.
Anyway tech support at Boris was not unhelpful but did not come up with solutions or solve the integration problem.

Really hope they will get Boris working properly within Vegas properly in the very near future.

Rudi

I use Boris Red 4 all the time, but not from within Vegas.

Integration is virtually non-existant.

Boris products are best used as stand-alone versus from within Vegas.

Boris products work great from within AfterEffects. Very different thing through Vegas though.

Unfortunately I only have FX not Red, so its not standalone.

But I do have PPro now, so I go to that to do things like image stabilization. Every time I do that it feels so good that it just works.

For Graffiti, you can render out of the plugin, so for EPS files and such it works well. But for titles, Ive gone to ProType because its stability issues seem to have been fixed.

Boris in Vegas is not completely useless - it works ok in some ways at least.

I just got my first proper Boris (FX9) effect, a 3D animation, serving nicely into Vegas. I first applied Boris as an FX to a dummy Event, namely a solid black. Worked fine. The hardest bit (apart from making the animation!) was noticing the vital "Accept" button (bottom-right of Boris's Timeline window, but only when Boris is used as an FX, not in its standalone Keyframer app). Still worked when applied instead to a video media Event. The Event that the FX was applied to became the input "V1" to Boris, where I played it onto the face of a 3D object. Cool! Experimented with Vegas's Pan/Crop (Position and Mask) and discovered that they affect the input to the FX (V1) rather than its output (that I naively expected at first, having not fully RTFM). I'm a happy bunny thus far!

The Vegas plugin interface is indeed "Pants" though, complicating the use and limiting the usefulness of a variety of plugins.

This is back from a while ago....and in that time I have bought and started learning After Effects.

IMHO it is a more intuitive program, it just seems to make more sense to me.

One of the reasons it was easier to get up to speed in AE is because I found more how-to-books available for this program. I really learn better with text tutorials and exercises with included media. I could only find one outdated book for Boris on Amazon, and it does not have tutorials.

BorisFX has plenty of free youtube videos out though, if videos work for you.

Additionally, I find AE CS3 way less glitchy and crashy than Graffiti and FX-but I don't have Red, so some of those quirks may not exist in the standalone version.

kairosmatt