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Cheno wrote on 3/9/2004, 7:35 AM
Each contains a series of scripts for different actions. It solely depends on what you need out of the programs. You may want to download the trial versions and see which one suits you best. There are some free scripts out there that do some of the things in these programs, but the nice things about Excaliber, Tsunami and Neon is they are nice plug-in packs that contain a number of goodies.

mike
jetdv wrote on 3/9/2004, 9:29 AM
What do you want to be able to do?

If you want Multi-cam tools, velocity changes, eliminate/create gaps, change durations, resync audio to video, etc... look at Excalibur

If you want added safety in saving, quicker DVD preparation, ability to undo a CTRL-drag, etc.... look at Neon.

If you want to selectively remove markers, flexibly select events, extract good clips, remove any pan/crop or effects, or apply a variety of special effects (Video Wall, Rotating Picture, ...), etc... choose Tsunami.

Just really what you have a need for.
jdas wrote on 3/9/2004, 4:14 PM
It is hard to narrow down my choice to just one. I understand that these programs are created by the same people, so why can't they combine all these scripts in just one program... and maybe charge more for the package ? Potential customers would certainly welcome a complete package.
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/9/2004, 5:05 PM
Think of our software as you would a music album.

Excalibur is "Edward and Gary's Rubber Soul".
Tsunami is a solo album by Edward.
Neon is our "Revolver"

I don't recall people expecting the Beatles to combine all their work into one big, expensive album.

Gary
jdas wrote on 3/9/2004, 6:36 PM
Gary,

Thanks for the analogy but you have misunderstood my point. I can easily get "The Best of Beatles" in a CD these days. Likewise, at least, the most useful scripts can be combined into one software and marketed as such. Right now, some of the frequently used scripts are scattered amongst the 3 plugins making purchase decisions rather difficult unless of course I purchase all three. I may not be suprised if another plugin comes along shortly maybe called "XFactor" with some more scripts. My suggestion may not be a prudent marketing move for the company, but customers will surely welcome it.

Hope other forum members will offer their input .
jetdv wrote on 3/9/2004, 6:56 PM
The biggest problem is the size of a typical screen. Each one of these scripts already fill up a large portion of the screen. There's simply not enough screen space to put ALL of them into ONE script.
jdas wrote on 3/9/2004, 7:19 PM
Edward,

Your explanation makes sense. Thanks. I am not an expert on these matters,but still think there must be way around to solve the screen estate issue. Is it not possible to create separate pages to accomodate all the scripts.. something like the menus in DVD creation ? Just a suggestion. Regards.


james
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/10/2004, 1:09 PM
>Right now, some of the frequently used scripts are scattered amongst the 3 plugins making purchase decisions rather difficult <

I see where you are coming from, but whose to say which tools are the most useful? You would almost certainly have a different favorites list than the next person.

The main point I'd make is that we have kept the pricing VERY reasonable and it would certainly be in reach of most Vegas users to buy all of them if they meet your needs.

A best-of collection may well be in the future, but like the Beatles, we are likely to wait until the demand for the originals fall off significantly, which hopefully, won't be for a while.

Gary
beerandchips wrote on 3/10/2004, 2:13 PM
Everything that these programs do, you can do. It just takes time, and sometimes lots of it. Let me just say from my experience Tsunami and Excalibur have saved me so much time and time is money. So even if you bought two out of the three the time you save is worth it.

So, just pick one or two or all three. You won't be sorry and it IS well worth it.

Steve
jdas wrote on 3/11/2004, 8:30 AM
I am not disputing the fact that these plugins are time savers. All I ask is WHY can't these scripts come in one comprehensive package instead of being split up into 3 or more. Edward had earlier mentioned the problem of limited screen space...this is the only plausible reason offered so far.

When a great NLE like Vegas can come in one package, I don't see why the same can't be done with scripts .

BTW, I have purchased Tsunami. Nice short cuts.
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/11/2004, 9:48 AM
>All I ask is WHY can't these scripts come in one comprehensive package instead of being split up into 3 or more. <

If we did that, I guarantee you that there would be disgruntled people posting " hey, I only needed XWizard, now they are making me buy stuff I don't need at a higher price!"

..can't please everyone.

Gary
jdas wrote on 3/11/2004, 5:13 PM
Gary,

Agreed...you can't please everyone. By all means retain the current plugins to please the disgrunted ones but how about those who say "hey, why can't I buy ALL my groceries under one roof...why make me visit several minimarts ? ". These people have no options right now. At least give it a thought...it is possible to please all sometimes.

I have your Vegas CDs and most (if not all) of the basic skills were clearly explained....and would certainly recommend these to any new user.Hence, I did not have the need to purchase other similar tutorials. See my point ?

PS: How about some smile /humour in your future works. It would add some zest to the learning process. Cheers !
Randy Brown wrote on 3/11/2004, 8:17 PM
Maybe I'm an idiot but I can't remember which wizards are on which script most of the time (Excalibur 2 and Tsunami). It wouldn't be a big deal but it takes 6 -10 seconds to open them...is this normal?
TIA,
Randy
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/11/2004, 8:48 PM
>it takes 6 -10 seconds to open them...is this normal?<

Randy,

The first time you open them in your session they take 10 or fifteen seconds to load, then after that they should come up within a second or three.

Gary
Randy Brown wrote on 3/12/2004, 6:33 AM
After the first time they do indeed open almost instantaneously....just checking.
Thanks Gary,
Randy
jetdv wrote on 3/12/2004, 7:48 AM
After opening Vegas, the first time ANY script is opened, the .NET framework must be loaded into memory. This is where the extra time comes in upon the first run.