Two-pass render to wmv acting up

TorS wrote on 12/11/2002, 3:59 PM
I've been fighting with a difficult render these last four days. The setup has worked several times before. But one scene is different: At the end there is a slowed-down shot of a mountain area in Norway (only about 600 m/1800 ft above sea level) shot in October. The colours are brown, orange and grey and it was raining. That scene rendered terribly, as if it was heavily pixelated. I tried almost everything.

Then I read something BillyBoy wrote in another thread, about two-pass rendering being about optimizing the render to what each part of the video needed - something like that - resulting in better streaming and smaller file sizes (I'm not quoting accurately here, but this is what I thought he was saying).

I had the two-pass render enabled just because I believe two is better than one. So I unchecked it, and the render came about beautifully. The file size even came out smaller than it used to be. I do not understand any of it, but I think it will be a while before I try two-pass rendering again.

Tor

Comments

randyvild wrote on 12/11/2002, 6:07 PM
Yes...I'm confused too about this subject. Can someone please explain what "enable to pass encoding" does. I looked in the manual and I can't find anything about it.


Randy
randyvild wrote on 12/11/2002, 6:32 PM
I agree with you TorS. I just did a test. I rendered one file without two pass encoding and got 895kb. Then with the same file enabled two pass encoding and got 1.02 mb. The stream was made larger. Can anyone explain this?

Randy
SonyEPM wrote on 12/12/2002, 8:24 AM
encoder bug. In the next rev of Vegas WM gets a significant overhaul- a high priority item.
salad wrote on 12/12/2002, 3:46 PM
Not that I'm the biggest fan of MS, but I am glad to hear that WinMedia will be a high priority. I have been playing with this new standalone WMEncoder 9.....the version that can't be uninstalled....I love this thing! I would like to see all these features, plus speed, in the next Vegas. I'll be working with WMV A LOT in the future.
..Right on SF!!

back to the 2 pass encoding.....I'll have to check that out. At first I was confused about the bigger file size using 2 pass, but I figured it was part of the optimizing, by possibly NOT over compressing frames that shouldn't be, but since it's a bug....will have to run more tests. I'll stick with the MS encoder for the HiQuality quality stuff.