Thanks Charles and I'm glad someone is having a better go at it than
me. I've tried your suggestions and hundreds of other things to no
avail and I'm just ready to beat my head in the wall at this point.
Maybe I just have a cursed copy? I'm not a video pro either but I
know degenerated video when I see it. I will see if SF has any ideas
via this forum and if not will formally contact their support staff.
I havn't given up yet, and the VV 2.0 GUI is best thing I have ever
seen (that is coming from a software developer...).
Although probably not related, out of curiosity what brand camera and
capture card are you using?

Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>Hi Kris -
>>I just finished a project on VV2.0a which used DV captured through
>>the Capture/Print-to-Tape tool from my miniDV camera. The captured
>>file was 720x480 with 16bit 48khz audio. The codec used was DVSoft
>>(which must have been installed with my camera's software). I did
my
>>edits, audio sweetening and some effects and then re-rendered to
the
>>NTSC DV template. It was explained to me that any sections of video
>>that are untouched (i.e. no effects, not crossfades) remain that
way -
>> they do not get recompressed. Pre-rendering sections also saves
time
>>in the rendering process. I don't know why you're experiencing
>>quality probs with the render - mine came out just as I expected it
>>to. Now, granted I'm not a pro video person (I own an audio-post
>>studio) but I could not see any degeneration of the video compared
to
>>the original.
>>
>>Are you sure your project settings match the original capture and
>>that your render settings are not recompressing? Also, you might
want
>>to direct this question to Dave Hill. You'll see his posts here on
>>the forum.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Charles.
>>
>>Kris Blom wrote:
>>>>Chirdren wanting to slam SF need not respond to this.
>>>>After a 100 hours or so of testing, I simply can not get VV
>>>>2.0a to render video to my satisfaction and it is not
>>>>broadcast quality. Actually, it looks like 20th generation
>>>>analog stuff. I have tried every conceivable "render as"
>>>>setting combination and codec there is, but the quality is
>>>>not there. I import high quality video and it comes out
>>>>unacceptable. Particularly in the area of pixilation in
>>>>all scenes, and a high amount of strobing in contrasty
>>>>scenes. This is with no effects/modifications of any
>>>>kind. I put the exact same footage in Premiere on the same
>>>>PC and it renders true broadcast quality with high
>>>>definition, sharp lines, and no pixels or strobing
>>>>regardless of how challenging the scene.
>>>>I bought VV because of it's outstanding GUI, but I am now
>>>>forced to stick with Premiere. This IS NOT a hardware
>>>>issue! I thought it might be that VV didn't like the DV500
>>>>avi's I was using, so I even went out and tried an OHCI
>>>>card, but that didn't help any. I noticed it does small res
>>>>OK, but not 720 X 480 NTSC DV.
>>>>a) Does the VV 2.0a rendering engine have some undocumented
>>>>weaknesses, and b) If so, will it be true broadcast quality
>>>>in future releases? If so, I'll leave it installed and
>>>>look forward to future patches or upgrades.
>>>>The current quality is Ok for a beginner making e greetings
>>>>but that is not what I'm doing.

I'm using a Canon Elura and a Texas Instrument OHCI compliant
firewire card.
Can you do the following: go to the Project Properties page (alt-
enter) and write in your settings. Also, what render options are you
using? What are the video tab settings? Does it seem like VV is
resizing the video? How are you playing it once rendered?

I too think VV is the best GUI for any video editor I've seen.
Good luck.

Kris Blom wrote:
>>Thanks Charles and I'm glad someone is having a better go at it
than
>>me. I've tried your suggestions and hundreds of other things to no
>>avail and I'm just ready to beat my head in the wall at this point.
>>Maybe I just have a cursed copy? I'm not a video pro either but I
>>know degenerated video when I see it. I will see if SF has any
ideas
>>via this forum and if not will formally contact their support
staff.
>>I havn't given up yet, and the VV 2.0 GUI is best thing I have ever
>>seen (that is coming from a software developer...).
>>Although probably not related, out of curiosity what brand camera
and
>>capture card are you using?
>>
>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>>>Hi Kris -
>>>>I just finished a project on VV2.0a which used DV captured
through
>>>>the Capture/Print-to-Tape tool from my miniDV camera. The
captured
>>>>file was 720x480 with 16bit 48khz audio. The codec used was
DVSoft
>>>>(which must have been installed with my camera's software). I did
>>my
>>>>edits, audio sweetening and some effects and then re-rendered to
>>the
>>>>NTSC DV template. It was explained to me that any sections of
video
>>>>that are untouched (i.e. no effects, not crossfades) remain that
>>way -
>>>> they do not get recompressed. Pre-rendering sections also saves
>>time
>>>>in the rendering process. I don't know why you're experiencing
>>>>quality probs with the render - mine came out just as I expected
it
>>>>to. Now, granted I'm not a pro video person (I own an audio-post
>>>>studio) but I could not see any degeneration of the video
compared
>>to
>>>>the original.
>>>>
>>>>Are you sure your project settings match the original capture and
>>>>that your render settings are not recompressing? Also, you might
>>want
>>>>to direct this question to Dave Hill. You'll see his posts here
on
>>>>the forum.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck.
>>>>
>>>>Charles.
>>>>
>>>>Kris Blom wrote:
>>>>>>Chirdren wanting to slam SF need not respond to this.
>>>>>>After a 100 hours or so of testing, I simply can not get VV
>>>>>>2.0a to render video to my satisfaction and it is not
>>>>>>broadcast quality. Actually, it looks like 20th generation
>>>>>>analog stuff. I have tried every conceivable "render as"
>>>>>>setting combination and codec there is, but the quality is
>>>>>>not there. I import high quality video and it comes out
>>>>>>unacceptable. Particularly in the area of pixilation in
>>>>>>all scenes, and a high amount of strobing in contrasty
>>>>>>scenes. This is with no effects/modifications of any
>>>>>>kind. I put the exact same footage in Premiere on the same
>>>>>>PC and it renders true broadcast quality with high
>>>>>>definition, sharp lines, and no pixels or strobing
>>>>>>regardless of how challenging the scene.
>>>>>>I bought VV because of it's outstanding GUI, but I am now
>>>>>>forced to stick with Premiere. This IS NOT a hardware
>>>>>>issue! I thought it might be that VV didn't like the DV500
>>>>>>avi's I was using, so I even went out and tried an OHCI
>>>>>>card, but that didn't help any. I noticed it does small res
>>>>>>OK, but not 720 X 480 NTSC DV.
>>>>>>a) Does the VV 2.0a rendering engine have some undocumented
>>>>>>weaknesses, and b) If so, will it be true broadcast quality
>>>>>>in future releases? If so, I'll leave it installed and
>>>>>>look forward to future patches or upgrades.
>>>>>>The current quality is Ok for a beginner making e greetings
>>>>>>but that is not what I'm doing.