Upcoming GPUs - What We'll be Putting in Our Future Vegas Systems

fr0sty wrote on 1/20/2020, 9:51 AM

Here's a thread where we can chat about upcoming hardware (not released yet) and debate which may be the best upgrade path to take for Vegas Pro use, to help those looking to buy new systems in the near future.

Nvidia has announced the upcoming RTX 3000 series of Geforce cards, which the 3080 variant will carry 20GB of GDDR6 VRAM on a 320 bit memory bus. It will have 3,840 stream processors ("cores"). I won't go into how many texture units and all that it will have, as that stuff is more geared towards rendering real time graphics for video games, but all in all it looks to be a beast of a card.

The Geforce RTX 3070 will clock in just under those specs, sporting a 256 bit memory bus, 3,070 stream processors ("cores"), and either 8 or 16GB of GDDR6 VRAM.

Still no word on clock speeds.

Expected release is sometime later this year.

For comparison, the RTX 2080ti specs are:

Graphics Processing

GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti

Core Clock

1665 MHz in OC mode
1650 MHz in Gaming mode
(Reference Card: 1545 MHz)

CUDA® Cores

4352

Memory Clock

14000 MHz

Memory Size

11 GB

Memory Type

GDDR6

Memory Bus

352 bit

That's their current top of the line card being compared against their future upper-mid-range card (which is why the older card has more CUDA cores, among other things).

Comments

TheRhino wrote on 1/20/2020, 10:19 AM

NVIDIA's next-gen 7nm Ampere GPUs:
GA103 (GeForce RTX 3080)
10/20GB GDDR6 320-bit memory interface
60 SMs
3480 stream processors

NVIDIA: GA104 (GeForce RTX 3070)
8/16GB GDDR6 256-bit memory interface
48 SMs
3072 stream processors

AMD: "Big Navi" based on Navi 20 - Navi 23 w/supposed ray-tracing
confirmed at CES this year but few details...
Starts-out at 17% faster than a 2080ti

fr0sty wrote on 1/21/2020, 1:36 PM

^FWIW, you can do ray tracing on current AMD cards. I can ray trace at 1080p 60fps max settings on my Radeon 7, and if you have one, you can too by downloading the cryengine downloader, then downloading the ray tracing demo that is available for it. It's quite impressive looking, and runs at a silky smooth frame rate. /off topic

I'm interested in seeing what AMD does, but after my 2 back to back experiences with faulty hardware/drivers from AMD cards, I'm leaning way towards Nvidia right now.

Kinvermark wrote on 1/21/2020, 4:51 PM

Starts-out at 17% faster than a 2080ti

Oh my, I see the AMD mania has taken hold already. That's a very early, totally unsubstantiated rumor. Let's hope for the best, but also keep a little unbiased perspective for Forum's sake.

LongIslanderrr wrote on 1/22/2020, 5:16 AM

I could care less about gpu support. I just want a stable version of vegas...

fr0sty wrote on 1/22/2020, 9:36 AM

You mean you couldn't care less? And we're not talking about stability, we're talking about GPU support. There's plenty of threads about stability for you to post that in, so let's stay on topic.

Kinvermark wrote on 1/22/2020, 11:07 AM

+1. There are (at least) two ways a program can be unusable: lack of stability, and lack of ability to do the tasks required.

Vegas needs to be able to leverage all the new hardware coming along in order to stay competitive. To me this includes high core count CPU's and multiple "big memory" GPU's.

Grazie wrote on 1/27/2020, 1:45 AM

Vegas needs to be able to leverage all the new hardware coming along in order to stay competitive. To me this includes high core count CPU's and multiple "big memory" GPU's.

@Kinvermark - Albeit that I agree with you, but what proof, over the last 10 years, do you have that this is what happens?

Kinvermark wrote on 1/27/2020, 10:15 PM

@Grazie

No proof. Just hope. Maybe someone with an "inside track" can comment on the current attitude of the dev's towards prioritizing hardware performance for high end systems.

Grazie wrote on 1/27/2020, 10:59 PM

@Kinvermark

Sure thing. Vegas Pro often does remind me of one of Heath-Robertson’s Fantastical Machines (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/heath-robinson-deserves-a-museum) . It’s been so far adapted and hammered into so many shapes and, like an obliging, loyal good soldier it will take onboard another weight and heave another Ruck Sack on another one of its many shoulders, “I can do that Guvvnor! Promise I can!”

Who’s up for a code rewrite? Scary thought? Mmwugghggg!

Former user wrote on 1/27/2020, 11:16 PM

I remember when the biggest selling point for Vegas was that no specific hardware was needed. That was when Avid and Premiere worked with only a few video cards.

Grazie wrote on 1/27/2020, 11:26 PM

@Former user - Ah, indeed, you are so right. Originally Vegas was Audio and only latterly embraced Video, which at that time was simply digitised to 1s and 0s. And maybe that reminder, that right there, is now becoming self-evident of the flaw in the DNA. You guys will know I’d invested time and money in a new MONSTA! And what has happened is that it’s made that same DNA work faster but not necessarily more efficiently with the same DNA.